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Camán - Does Size Really Matter?
Eamon Ryan Mary O Connor

29th November 2008
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DVD FOOTAGE
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Size of boots


Size of Training Gear
What about size of Hurley?




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2007 Survey


21 Inter -county hurlers
Average Height 5f 11 1/2
21 Inter- county Camogie Players
Average length of Hurley 34.9 inches
Average Height 5f 6
Average Length of Hurley 34.2 inches

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Defender H Height 6f
2 Length of Hurley 35 ins C Height 5f
3 Length of Hurley 35 ins
Wing Back H Height 5f 9 Length of
Hurley 34 ins C Height 5f 4 Length of
Hurley 34 ins
2007 Survey
Wing Forward H Height 6f
3 Length of Hurley 35 ins C Height 5f
6 Length of Hurley 35 ins
Free scoring corner forward
H Height 5f 10 Length of Hurley 34.5 ins
C Height 5f 5 Length of Hurley 33 ins

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Reasons All-Star, 5F 9 uses 34 inch Hurley
1. To get sliotar into my hand faster 2. I
dont get hooked as easily or as often as I
would with longer Hurley 3. I can swing the
Hurley more efficiently

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2008 Survey
Camogie (87)
Hurling (91)
Galway
Kilkenny
Tipperary
Kilkenny
Wexford
Waterford
Cork
Cork

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Cumann Camógaíochta na nGael- Questionnaire

• Height Ft ___ Ins ____
• Playing Position ________
• Length of Hurley __Ins
• With which hand do you write Right ___
  Left ___
• Do you normally play with your Writing hand at
  the top of the handle?
• Yes _____ No _____
• Have you changed your hurley length in the last
  few years
• Yes ___ No ____
• If yes, why did you change your hurley length
• ____________________________________

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• How do you decide on the length of your hurley
• _________________________________________
• At what age did you begin playing
  Camogie/Hurling?
• ____________
• Do you practice on your own outside of official
  club/county training
• Seldom ______ Occasionally ____ Regularly
  _____
• Do you weigh your hurley? ________
• If so what weight is your hurley _____lbs
  _____ozs
• If you now use a shorter hurley than a few years
  ago, what are the advantages from using this new,
  shorter hurley?
• _________________________________

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Camogie Players
Hurlers
Average Height 5F 5 ½ 6F
Average Length of Hurley Orthodox grip (Dominant/writing hand on top of handle) 34.5 ins 94 35.2 ins 96
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90 (9 out of 10) use either 33 34 or 35
Hurley
2008 Study - Camogie

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60 (6 out of 10) use either 33, 34 or 35
Hurley
2008 Study Hurling

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Downsizing
19 of Hurling and Camogie Players from 2008
survey have downsized in the past few years
Why?

• Lighter Hurley leading to
• Better touch
• Closer and better control
• Shorter, quicker, better
• strike
• Less chance of being
• hooked/blocked
• Easier to solo

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Short Hurley Shortened Grip
Sinead Cahalan
Ben O Connor

Tom Kenny
DJ Carey
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Size of Hurley I have always
used a short Hurley. It is easier to produce the
wristy swing that is required in hurling with a
shorter Hurley
Weight of Hurley Power comes from the speed of
the Hurley rather than the weight. I have
always gone for a light Hurley

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Shorter Hurley
Tom Cashman
Jimmy Doyle

DJ Carey
Jimmy Barry Murphy
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Changed Grip
Tom Cashman
Michael Babs Keating

John Fenton
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Hurley Length Test (Suggestion)

• Ask player to stand erect, looking straight
  ahead, with hands by
• his/her side.
• The correct length player can shake hands
  comfortably with top of
• handle. Still looking straight ahead- arms
  extended down side of
• body.
• Using the above grip with dominant hand ask
  player to extend it
• straight out from the shoulder. Thumb of
  dominant hand on the upper
• edge for control and stability.
• If Hurley correct length and weight player
  should be able to keep it
• extended without too much discomfort for
  20/30 seconds.

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An Iomaínt

• Ar dhroim an domhain níl radharc is aílle
• Ná triocha fear ag bualadh baíre
• Ar phairc mhór ghlas faoi thaitneamh greíne
• Is na gártha molta ag dul chun speíre
• Dhá fhoireann ghroí in aghaidh a cheile
• Gach fear I mbarr a nirt is a réime
• Camán á luascadh ar fud na paírce
• Is an sliotar ag imeacht ar luas in airde
• An triocha fear ag rith is ag leímneach
• Buillí a mbualadh le neart is le h eífeacht
• Tapúlacht coise is oilteacht laímhe
• Ar dhroim an domhain níl radharc is aílle
• Sean o Finneadha

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Out of Last 68 All-Irelands
4/6 Kilkenny 11/2 Tipperary 13/2 Galway 8/
1 Cork 12/1 Waterford 14/1 Clare 18/1 Limerick
125/1 Wexford 150/1 Offaly
Wexford, Offaly, Galway, Limerick, Waterford,
Clare 25
Kilkenny Cork Tipperary 75