Title: PIN 180581, 062807 PAC Meeting
1Welcome!
to the Lake Champlain Bridge ProjectPublic
Advisory Committee (PAC)First Organizational
Meeting 1000 AM to 100 PMJUNE 28,
2007Chimney Point Vermont State Historic Site
2MEETING AGENDA
- Introductions
- Project Overview
- Role of the PAC
- Next Steps
- Roundtable Discussion
3MEETING AGENDA
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8Design Consultant
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10SAFETEA-LU Agency Working Group
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13MEETING AGENDA
- Introductions
- Project Overview
14PROJECTLOCATION
Lake Champlain
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Chimney Point, VT
Crown Point, NY
15BRIDGE STATISTICS
- BRIDGE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 5521180
- AGE Built in 1929
- LENGTH 14 spans,
- 2,184 feet
- ROADWAY WIDTH 26.1 feet
- STRUCTURE TYPE Combination of thru truss, deck
- truss, and deck plate girders
- BIKE / PED ACCOMMODATIONS None
- VERTICAL CLEARANCE ON BRIDGE 14 feet
- MAX VERTICAL CLEARANCE OVER WATER 95 feet
16View looking south from Crown Point, NY showing
main thru truss span at the mid point of the
bridge
17View looking east toward Chimney Point, VT from
above the thru truss
18View looking east from New York side
19View looking west from Vermont side
20Plaque at mid point of bridge marking the state
line between New York (left) and Vermont (right)
21View from Crown Point, NY historic site. Note
deck plate girders comprising the first three
spans
22View from Chimney Point, VT historic site from
below deck plate girder spans near first deck
truss
23INITIAL PROBLEM IDENTIFICATION
- Bridge Condition Rating
- Score 3.764 out of a possible 7 points
- Scores between 3 and 4 indicate serious
deterioration or not functioning as originally
designed - Problems are with main carrying members,
bearings, joints, and wearing surface - Federal Sufficiency Rating
- Score 29.2 out of a possible 100 points
- Scores less than 65 qualify for Federal funding
- Load Restricted
- R-Posted, meaning that vehicles operating
pursuant to Permit Types that normally allow
weights greater than 102,000 pounds (Types 6, 6A,
7 and the new Type 9) have been prohibited from
crossing - Limited roadway vertical clearance of 14-0
- Trucks in excess of 14 have struck the bridge on
several occasions, requiring the bridge to be
closed for repair
24View of the top of pier at one end of the thru
truss
25Close-up view of steel deterioration
26Signs noting vertical clearance and weight
limitations
27PRELIMINARY ALTERNATIVESPERCEIVED AS
REASONABLE(as discussed at August 29,
2006Public Information Meeting)
- Rehabilitation
- Replacement on Existing Alignment
- Replacement on Slightly Modified Alignment
- Replacement on New Alignment (New Location)
28EXPECTED ISSUES/DISCUSSSION POINTS(as presented
at August 29, 2006Public Information Meeting)
- Age of Bridge
- Historical Nature of Bridge
- Historical Nature of Area
- Pedestrian Bicyclists Accommodation (Roadway
Bridge Width) - Permits
- Seismic Retrofits
- Navigation Clearance (Horizontal)
- Vertical Clearance on Bridge
- Vertical Clearance Under the Bridge
- Non-redundancy of Structure
- Load Posting
- Overall Bridge Length Number of Spans
- Grades on Bridge
- Sight Distance on bridge
- Initial Project Cost
- Life Cycle Costs
- Maintenance of Traffic During Construction
29MEETING AGENDA
- Introductions
- Project Overview
- Role of the PAC
- In Public Involvement
- In the Design and Environmental Processing of the
Project - In the Project Decision Making Process
30ROLE OF THE PAC INPUBLIC INVOLVEMENT
Public Meetings will Continue to be an important
part of Public Involvement
31PAC ROLE ACCORDING TO THE NYSDOTPUBLIC
INVOLVEMENT MANUAL
Note Citizens is synonymous with Public
32ROLE OF THE PAC IN THE DESIGNAND
ENVRONMENTAL PROCESSINGOF THIS PROJECT
- Overview of NYSDOTs design process
- Overview of Federal NEPA process
- Overview of New Yorks SEQR process
- Overview of Federal SAFETEA-LU process
- for coordination of environmental reviews
- Overview of Vermonts Land Use and
Development Law, Act 250
33ROLE OF THE PAC IN THE DESIGNAND
ENVRONMENTAL PROCESSINGOF THIS PROJECT
- Overview of NYSDOTs design process
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34NYSDOT DESIGN PROCESSFOLLOWS TRADITIONALPROBLEM
SOLVING STEPS 1 THRU 5
Prepare Scope Approval Document 2008 - 2009
Prepare Design Approval Document 2009 2010
Gather Information 2007-2008
Prepare Contract Drawings 2011 - 2012
Select Design Consultant, 2008
Build Project, 2012 - 2015
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35ROLE OF THE PAC IN THE DESIGNAND
ENVRONMENTAL PROCESSINGOF THIS PROJECT
- Overview of NYSDOTs design process
- Overview of Federal NEPA process
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36OVERVIEW OF THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT
of 1969a.k.a. NEPA
- The underlying intent of the National
Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) is to require
federal agencies to incorporate environmental
considerations into project development and
decision-making processes. - NEPA requires federal agencies to put this
decision- making process into writing and makes
it open to public and judicial review at several
levels. - The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled
that NEPA is a strictly procedural statute,
meaning that although it forces agencies to
formally consider the environmental impacts of
their actions, it does not in any way dictate
the final decision on the action.
37DESIGN PROCESS RELATIONSHIP TO NEPA
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38PUBLIC INVOLVEMENTDURING THE NEPA PROCESS
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(1)
- This flowchart shows 3 separate environmental
processes. Only 1 process is followed for any
given project. Each process has a different
approval document and a different expected
duration. - This process is used only for the most simple
projects, such as maintenance type actions.
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39ROLE OF THE PAC IN THE DESIGNAND
ENVRONMENTAL PROCESSINGOF THIS PROJECT
- Overview of NYSDOTs design process
- Overview of Federal NEPA process
- Overview of New Yorks SEQR process
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40OVERVIEW OF THE NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY REVIEW ACTof 1978, a.k.a. SEQR
- SEQR requires the sponsoring or approving
governmental body to identify and mitigate the
significant environmental impacts of the
activity it is proposing or permitting - The SEQR lead agency determines the
significance of an action's
environmental impacts. The agency then decides
whether to prepare an Environmental Impact
Statement (EIS) and whether to hold a public
hearing on the proposed action. - In general, federal-aid projects progressed
under NEPA guidelines satisfy all SEQR
requirements.
41SEQR PROCEDURAL STEPS
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42ROLE OF THE PAC IN THE DESIGNAND
ENVRONMENTAL PROCESSINGOF THIS PROJECT
- Overview of NYSDOTs design process
- Overview of Federal NEPA process
- Overview of New Yorks SEQR process
- Overview of Federal SAFETEA-LU process
- for coordination of environmental reviews
43OVERVIEW OF THE SAFE, ACCOUNTABLE, FLEXIBLE,
EFFICIENT TRANSPORTATION EQUITY ACT A LEGACY FOR
USERS of 2005a.k.a. SAFETEA-LU
- Part 6002 improves the efficiency of
environmental reviews - Applicable to new projects advanced with
environmental impact statements (EIS process) - After providing opportunities for public
and interagency involvement, DOT defines the
project's purpose and need and establishes a
plan for coordinating public and agency
participation - As early as practicable in the process,
DOT provides an opportunity for a range of
alternatives to be considered
44SAFETEA-LU OVERVIEW CONTINUED
- Opportunities for input are publicized
(such as thru press releases and direct mailings
announcing public informational meetings and via
the project website) - After consideration of the publics and
participating agencys input, the Lead Agencies
(in this case NYSDOT, VAOT, and FHWA) are the
decision makers. - Lead Agency decisions and rationale are
documented and disclosed to the participating
agencies and the public
45SAFETEA-LU Agency Working Group
The Agency Working Group is one tool for
obtaining participating agency input. This group
is comprised of representatives of
The Public Advisory Committee is one tool for
obtaining public input. The PAC is comprised of
representatives of
- Federal Highway Administration
- Army Corps of Engineers
- Environmental Protection Agency
- US Fish and Wildlife Agency
- National Park Service
- US Coast Guard
- NYS Department of Transportation
- VT Agency of Transportation
- NYS Historic Preservation Office
- VT Division for Historic Preservation
- NYS Dept of Environmental Conservation
- VT Agency of Natural Resources
- Adirondack Park Agency
- Elected Officials
- Historic Interests
- Residential Interests
- Business Interests
- Recreational Interests
- Agricultural Interests
- Environmental Interests
46ROLE OF THE PAC IN THE DESIGNAND
ENVRONMENTAL PROCESSINGOF THIS PROJECT
- Overview of NYSDOTs design process
- Overview of Federal NEPA process
- Overview of New Yorks SEQR process
- Overview of Federal SAFETEA-LU process
- for coordination of environmental reviews
- Overview of Vermonts Land Use and
Development Law, Act 250
47OVERVIEW OF VERMONTS LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT
ACT of 1970a.k.a. ACT 250
- The Vermont legislature formally stated in
- 1969, Act 250 was necessary to
- . . . Regulate and control the utilization
- and usages of lands and the environment
- to insure that, hereafter, the only usages
which will be permitted are not unduly
detrimental to the environment...."' - One regional planning commission recently
- explained the purpose this way
- "The goals of Act 250 are to protect the
- environment. . . and to provide a forum
- for neighbors, municipalities and other
interest groups to voice their concerns."
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51ROLE OF THE PAC IN THE PROJECTDECISION
MAKING PROCESS
DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS
PAC MEMBER NETWORKING WITH THEIR INTEREST GROUPS
TECHNICAL ADVICE PROVIDED TO THE PAC
LEAD AGENCY DECISIONS
SAFETEA-LU Agency Working Group
AGENCY INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC
OTHER PUBLIC AND AGENCY INPUT
52NYSDOT / VAOT Make Decisions
Note Some PAC members have not been identified
and/or confirmed.
53MEETING AGENDA
- Introductions
- Project Overview
- Role of the PAC
- Next Steps
54NEXT STEPS FOR THE DESIGN TEAM
- Aerial Photos Completed Spring 2007
55Flight line diagram showing aerial photo locations
Example aerial photo
56NEXT STEPS FOR THE DESIGN TEAM
- Aerial Photos Completed Spring 2007
- Mapping Scheduled for completion Fall 2007
- Pier Cores Scheduled for completion Summer
2007 - Bridge Inspection Scheduled for completion Fall
2007 - Load Rating Expected Fall 2007
- Design Consultant Designation expected early
to mid 2008
57How is a Consulting Firm hired?
- NYSDOT internal request process
- Advertisement published
- Interested firms submit proposals
- NYSDOT selection process includes computer
scoring and selection committee - Firm is designated
- Detailed Scope of Services is developed
- Fees are negotiated
- NYS Comptroller approves Agreement
- Consultant starts work
58NEXT STEPS FOR THE DESIGN TEAM
- Aerial Photos Completed Spring 2007
- Mapping Scheduled for completion Fall 2007
- Pier Cores Scheduled for completion Summer
2007 - Bridge Inspection Scheduled for completion Fall
2007 - Load Rating Expected Fall 2007
- Design Consultant Designation expected early
to mid 2008 - NY/VT Agreement Finalization expected Fall 2007
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60NEXT STEPS FOR THE DESIGN TEAM
- Aerial Photos Completed Spring 2007
- Mapping Scheduled for completion Fall 2007
- Pier Cores Scheduled for completion Summer
2007 - Bridge Inspection Scheduled for completion Fall
2007 - Load Rating Expected Fall 2007
- Design Consultant Designation expected early
to mid 2008 - NY/VT Agreement Finalization expected Fall 2007
- PAC Formation Finalize / prepare for Fall 2007
meeting - Project Web site Create / update
61NEXT STEPS FOR THE PAC
- Review materials provided at initial meeting
- Begin networking with representative groups
- Reconvene in the Fall of 2007
- Elect officers
- Adopt charter
62PAC CHARTER DOCUMENT
63NEXT STEPS FOR THE PAC
- Review materials provided at initial meeting
- Begin networking with representative groups
- Reconvene in the Fall of 2007
- Elect officers
- Adopt charter
- Establish meeting procedures
64 Such as . . .
65NEXT STEPS FOR THE PAC
- Review materials provided at initial meeting
- Begin networking with representative groups
- Reconvene in the Fall of 2007
- Elect officers
- Adopt charter
- Establish meeting procedures
- Continue discussion
66MEETING AGENDA
- Introductions
- Project Overview
- Role of the PAC
- Next Steps
- Roundtable Discussion
67PACROUNDTABLEDISCUSSION
- Please share with the group your answers to these
questions - Why did you volunteer to serve on the PAC?
- What do you hope to be able to bring to the
table? - What do you hope to get out of this experience?
- Do you have any questions or concerns at this
point?
68Thank YouforParticipating!
Special thanks to the Chimney Point State
Historic Site for allowing use of their
facilities for todays meeting.