Title: Does Consciousness collapse the wave function
1Does Consciousness collapse the wave function?
Dick Bierman, University of Amsterdam, Utrecht
University Presented at the 6th Biennale on
Science, Technics Aesthetics 22-23 jan. 2005
2Can Consciousness be teleported?
- To answer the question we should investigate the
relation between matter and consciousness. - EMPIRICALLY!!!!
3Mind-Body Relation
- Mostly by Philosophers
- discussion of Free Will
- Current winner Materialistic Monism
- Free Will is illusion Consc. is epiphenomenon
- for a proposed theoretical rebuttal -gt Hameroff
- And furthermore
- Mind over Matter Psi (retro) psychokinesis Data
- Mental intention precedes material consequences
- QM measurement problem
Descartes
Dennett
4What is a measurement?
Consider the re-entry of the space shuttle
5Classical Measurement
Classicial Physics
Continuous infite
R
t
Measurement at t 3
Newton
6Measurement problem 2
Measurement at t 3
Classical Physics
R
t
electron
Newton
R
r1
Quantum Physics
r2
t
Discrete , few values
Schrodinger
7Measurement problem 3
1
P(r1)
1
P(r2)
But the description is one of probabilities (a
state vector).Upon measurement (T3) the vector
collapses into the final observed state. (R2)
8QP incomplete?
According to Einstein, who held a local realistic
view, this funny state vector reflected our (lack
of) knowledge, not the actual physical situation.
There was no collapse, there was only increase
in knowledge upon measurement.
9QP is complete!
Bell showed that ALL local realistic theories do
predict results different from what Quantum
Physics predicts. Empirical results showed that
QP was confirmed and hence Einstein
disconfirmed Thus it is not the case that the
particle had a precise specific property before
measurement (that we dont know) but it GETS the
position upon measurement.
10What has Schrödingers Cat to do with this
- Suppose we have a radioactive source
- When does it emit a particle?
- There are two possible final states
- Particle is not emitted
- Particle is emitted
- The true actual state is a superposition
- Upon measurement it collapses to one of the
possible final states (Bell the measurement is
responsible!).
11Schrödingers Cat
RA source
Emitted but also non-emitted
Hammer activation device
The measurement determines the state of the
cat. Where does the measurement occur?
12So what constitutes a measurement is really
important
- A measurement is something what you do with a
measurement device. - Usable in the daily practice of physics
- But possibly incorrect
- (von Neumann)
13The Measurement Problemsolutions
- Many World solution (Everett)
- Deterministic solution (Bohm)
- Non linear Schrodinger equation (GRW)
- Objective Reduction (Penrose)
- Radical subjective solution (Wigner, Stapp,
Walker)
14Radical Solution
- . The reduction of the state vector is a
physical event which occurs only when there is an
interaction between the physical measuring
apparatus and the psyche of some observer.. - from Hall, J., Kim, C., McElroy, and Shimony, A.
(1977). Wave-packet reduction as a medium of
communication. Foundations of Physics 7 (1977),
759-767.
Note that this implies that the Schrödingers
cats fate is decided when a human psyche enters
the measurement chain.
15Quote in Hall et al
16Hall et al experiment
17Weaknesses in Hall
- Delay between first and second observation
- The dependent variable a conscious verbal report
18Amsterdam Replication
- Amsterdam 2002
- Delay
- 1000 msecs
- Dependent variable
- brain signals
- HALL et al 1977
- Delay
- few microseconds
- Dependent variable
- verbal report
19Amsterdam set-up
20procedure movie here
21Preprocessing data
- Separate odd-ball task to explore the
preprocessing parameters - Which subjects produced bad data (2/ 32)
- Which electrodes (leads) gave signals
- How to pool leads
- What filtering to be used
- What moments in time course to analyze
22Mean evoked potentials
N200
N160
P100
23Analysis procedure
- Predetermined we only analyze (differences
between) peak amplitudes. - We also apply non-parametric statistics (because
of non normality of the distribution of data)
24Results split for condition(preobserved and
not-preobserved)
25Statistical analyses Peaks
26RESULTS peak analysis
27Lateralization
28Control analysis
- Split data randomly rather than according to Exp.
Condition and repeat analysis. - Effectsizes are on the average an order of
magnitude smaller and statistically non
significant
29Preliminary Conclusions
- Copenhagen interpretation supported
- And Consciousness stands outside of quantum
physics (dualism) - But wait a minute Strong claims need strong
evidence..
Bohr
30Discussion / Conclusion
- Alternative normal explanations
- Sensory Cueing (ultra sounds)
- EM radiation
- Chance / Over-analysis
- Paranormal explanation?
- EEG transfer
- Current work
- Manipulate quantum vs classical source
31Replication set up
Alpha source
GM detector
Count down clock
EEG amplifiers
Trigger-in
delay
Audio-beep
Final Observer
Computer
Visual pre-observation for 50 of the events
Pre Observer
32Results Quantum vs Classical sources
microvolts
Classic-preobs
Quantum
Quantum-preobs
Classic
No Preobservation effect But Quantum-Classic
effect!
milliseconds
beep
33Can we reconcile first second experiment?
- Was the preobservation complete?
- Preobserver nor final observer has knowledge
about quantum and classic source. - Reduced coupling between pre-observer and final
observer - Camera on final observer wasnt used in 2
- Audio leakage from 2 -gt1 was removed
34What Next?
Preobserver
Eventsource
Final observer
Short delay
Verbal response
Hall, 1977
35What Next?
Preobserver
Eventsource
Final observer
Brain signals
Longer delay
Bierman 2002
36What Next?
Preobserver
Eventsource
Final observer
Bierman 2002
Brain signals
Longer delay
classical source
Whitmarsh, 2004
37This Next!
Preobserver
Eventsource
Final observer
Bierman 2002
Brain signals
Longer delay
Detailed feedback
Detailed feedback
Jan 2005- mar 2005
38This Next!
THE SAME person!!
Preobserver
Eventsource
Final observer
Bierman 2002
Brain signals
Longer delay
Detailed feedback
Detailed feedback
39C Teleportation?
- We are able teleport qp matter states
- If dualism is true, this technology will fail to
teleport complete persons (with their mental
state) - But this is science fiction anyway
40Speculations 1
- Empirical Vision research suggests strongly that
Consciousness is occurring only if recurrent
processing starts (Lamme, 2002) - Theoretically introduction of non linearity in
the Schrodinger formalism gives reduction of the
state vector. - Are these two facts related?
41Speculations 2
- Within Einsteins approach QP would become
complete (and collapse would be removed) if we
introduce a hidden variable - But this hidden variable has to be transcendent
in space-time - Is the collapsing (dualistic) aspect of
consciousness transcendent in space-time? - (this speculation introduces a double aspect of
consciousness to be identified with contents of
C , the personal history (the me), and the I
that is having this body with this personal
history)
42Thanks for your attention