Title: Meeting on e e- physics perspectives
1Meeting on ee- physics perspectives (non-K-decays
) at LNF
Frascati 19-20 Jan. 2006
Simulation of time-like form factor measurements
at DAFNE-2
Marco Radici INFN - Pavia
- with
- Bianconi (Brescia)
- B. Pasquini (Pavia)
2Outline
- Review master formulae
- Gakh Tomasi-Gustafsson hep-ph/0511240
- describe setup of Monte Carlo simulation
- q2 -, ? distributions of unpolarized cross
section - extraction of GM, GE
- q2 -, ? distributions of Ay
- extraction of phases
4. explore sensitivity to 2? mechanisms
3- Born and 2? amplitudes
- Unpolarized cross section
- Normal polarization
- Details of simulation
- Input parametrizations of FF
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
R angular asymmetry
q2lt0 Rosenbluth plot change E, ?e at fixed q2 )
linear plot in ?
q2gt0 measure ? at fixed q2 ) get R cos2?
typical of Born diagram
non cos2 ? ) explore 2? mechanisms
4- Born and 2? amplitudes
- Unpolarized cross section
- Normal polarization
- Details of simulation
- Input parametrizations of FF
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
5- Born and 2? amplitudes
- Unpolarized cross section
- Normal polarization
- Details of simulation
- Input parametrizations of FF
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
- Sort events distributed as 1/q10 in 4m2 lt q2 lt
50 GeV2 - GM 1/q4 ) d?o 1/q10
- Accept / reject event according to d?o
- each event is a n-tuple of 6 elements
q2,?,?,Px,Py,Pz
- Sample of 270 000 events
- DAFNE-2 L1032 cm-2s-1 ? (ee- ! ppbar) 1nB
- ) rate 0.1 Hz collect sample in 1 month
- DAFNE-2 range (m?)2 lt q2 lt (2.4)2 GeV2
- simulation for 4m23.52 lt q2 lt 5.76 GeV2
6- Born and 2? amplitudes
- Unpolarized cross section
- Normal polarization
- Details of simulation
- Input parametrizations of FF
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
Which form factors provide to Monte Carlo ?
DAFNE-2
Brodsky et al. P.R. D69 (04) 054022
7- Born and 2? amplitudes
- Unpolarized cross section
- Normal polarization
- Details of simulation
- Input parametrizations of FF
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
Iachello Iachello et al.
P.L. B43 (73) 191 P.R.C69 (04)
055204 (dipole core)x(?,?,? poles)
VMD
Lomon Lomon P.R. C66 (02)
045501 (double dipole)x(?,?,?,?,?)
VMD
8- Lomon fit to Born cross section
- Iachello fit to Born cross section
- Statistical comparison of two fits
- Fits to total Born cross section
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
P1
P2
9- Lomon fit to Born cross section
- Iachello fit to Born cross section
- Statistical comparison of two fits
- Fits to total Born cross section
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
P1
P2
10- Lomon fit to Born cross section
- Iachello fit to Born cross section
- Statistical comparison of two fits
- Fits to total Born cross section
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
11- Lomon fit to Born cross section
- Iachello fit to Born cross section
- Statistical comparison of two fits
- Fits to total Born cross section
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
12- Lomon fit to Born cross section
- Iachello fit to Born cross section
- Statistical comparison of two fits
- Fits to total Born cross section
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
13- Lomon fit to Born cross section
- Iachello fit to Born cross section
- Statistical comparison of two fits
- Fits to total Born cross section
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
Need good coverage over whole range in ?
q2 close to threshold ! more events, better
statistics q2 close to upper bound ! low
statistics, no selective power
14- Lomon angular fit to Born Ay
- Iachello angular fit to Born Ay
- Statistical relevance of Lomon fit
- Statistical comparison of fits for Ay(45o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
P3
15- Lomon angular fit to Born Ay
- Iachello angular fit to Born Ay
- Statistical relevance of Lomon fit
- Statistical comparison of fits for Ay(45o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
P3
16- Lomon angular fit to Born Ay
- Iachello angular fit to Born Ay
- Statistical relevance of Lomon fit
- Statistical comparison of fits for Ay(45o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
17- Lomon angular fit to Born Ay
- Iachello angular fit to Born Ay
- Statistical relevance of Lomon fit
- Statistical comparison of fits for Ay(45o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
18- Lomon angular fit to Born Ay
- Iachello angular fit to Born Ay
- Statistical relevance of Lomon fit
- Statistical comparison of fits for Ay(45o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
19- Lomon angular fit to Born Ay
- Iachello angular fit to Born Ay
- Statistical relevance of Lomon fit
- Statistical comparison of fits for Ay(45o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
- in 4m2ltq2lt5.76 GeV2 Ay is small
- ) extraction of phases via Im GMGE is
difficult
2. study Ay(q2) at specific ? enhances
statistical noise ) look at angular
distribution
- 3. angular fit is problematic, but the sin2? Born
trend is - visible ) extracting Im GMGE is it possible
? - ) again need full coverage of ?
20- Born and 2? amplitudes
- Unpolarized cross section
- Normal polarization
- Details of simulation
- Input parametrizations of FF
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
21- Test functions for A(q2,t)
- Angular fits for unpol. cross section
- Statistical comparisons of fits
- Statistical comparisons of fits for Ay(90o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
try C 0.02 ! see nothing try C 0.2 ! see
something
22- Test functions for A(q2,t)
- Angular fits for unpol. cross section
- Statistical comparisons of fits
- Statistical comparisons of fits for Ay(90o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
23- Test functions for A(q2,t)
- Angular fits for unpol. cross section
- Statistical comparisons of fits
- Statistical comparisons of fits for Ay(90o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
P1
P2
P3
C 0.02
24- Test functions for A(q2,t)
- Angular fits for unpol. cross section
- Statistical comparisons of fits
- Statistical comparisons of fits for Ay(90o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
P1
P2
P3
C 0.2
Re(A)Im(A)
25- Test functions for A(q2,t)
- Angular fits for unpol. cross section
- Statistical comparisons of fits
- Statistical comparisons of fits for Ay(90o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
C 0.2
Re(A) -Im(A)
26- Test functions for A(q2,t)
- Angular fits for unpol. cross section
- Statistical comparisons of fits
- Statistical comparisons of fits for Ay(90o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
C 0.2
Re(A) -Im(A)
Re(A) Im(A)
27- Test functions for A(q2,t)
- Angular fits for unpol. cross section
- Statistical comparisons of fits
- Statistical comparisons of fits for Ay(90o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
28- Test functions for A(q2,t)
- Angular fits for unpol. cross section
- Statistical comparisons of fits
- Statistical comparisons of fits for Ay(90o)
- Summary
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
- Modelling 2? diagram is very difficult !
approximations - ?GE ?GM 0 A(q2,?) ¼ A(q2)
- if non-Born dependence cos? ) boundary ? are
important
2. Counting rules ) asymptotically ReA(q2) /
ReGE(q2) ImA ReA ) test interference
ReGE/M ImGE/M angular separation possible
3. Ay(q2) at ??/2 only from 2? but too few
events ) statistical noise, no selectivity )
again full ? coverage important
29Backup slides
30- Born and 2? amplitudes
- Unpolarized cross section
- Normal polarization
- Details of simulation
- Monte Carlo
- Extraction of moduli
- Extraction of phases
- 2? effects
polarized cross section for
Ax, Az require polarization of the electron beam
Pe ? 0
31- Questions in SL region
- Surprise in SL TL
- Few and poor TL data
- Better constrain models
- Why TL FF ?
- What do we learn ?
- Which measurements ?
- Available data and models ?
JLab Hall A Qattan et al.
P.R.L. 94 (05) 142301
Blunden et al. nucl-th/0506039
2? ?
32- Questions in SL region
- Surprise in SL TL
- Few and poor TL data
- Better constrain models
- Why TL FF ?
- What do we learn ?
- Which measurements ?
- Available data and models ?
SpaceLike
TimeLike
analytic continuation by Dispersion Relations
(DR)
But
fit to pQCD TimeLike
fit to pQCD SpaceLike
33- Questions in SL region
- Surprise in SL TL
- Few and poor TL data
- Better constrain models
- Why TL FF ?
- What do we learn ?
- Which measurements ?
- Available data and models ?
pQCD analyticity
But
fit to GMp
34- Questions in SL region
- Surprise in SL TL
- Few and poor TL data
- Better constrain models
- Why TL FF ?
- What do we learn ?
- Which measurements ?
- Available data and models ?
poor statistic
integrate d? over wide angular range
all data assume
its true only at
where steep rise is observed
35- Form factors are complex
- FF from unpol. cross section
- Phases from polarization
- Unphysical region
- Why TL FF ?
- What do we learn ?
- Which measurements ?
- Available data and models ?
phases of FF from Final-State Interactions (FSI)
of final baryon system interference of
channels with different phases ( Im (GEGM) )
pQCD FSI ! 0 for Q2 ! 1 ) test transition
to scaling and Color Transparency (CT)
FSI ! T-odd mechanisms are allowed
generates
GE F1 ? F2 GE ei ?E GM F1 F2
GM ei ?M
not possible in elastic scattering
Im (GEGM) (? -1) Im F2F1 threshold t14M2 !
Im( )0 consistent with GEGM from GT1(t1)0
ambiguity ? ? - ? solved by
36- Form factors are complex
- FF from unpol. cross section
- Phases from polarization
- Unphysical region
- Why TL FF ?
- What do we learn ?
- Which measurements ?
- Available data and models ?
discriminate among models that are close in SL
region
IJL
CQM
pQCD improved
37- data proton
- models
- Why TL FF ?
- What do we learn ?
- Which measurements ?
- Available data and models ?
ADONE Q2 4.4 GeV (1973)
CERN Q2 3.6 (1977)
Orsay-DM1 Q2 3.75-4.56 (1979)
Orsay-DM2 Q2 4-5 (1983)
LEAR Q2 3.5-4.2 (1994)
E760 Q2 8.9-13 (1993)
FENICE Q2 3.7-6 (1994)
E835 Q2 8.8-18.4 (1999)
11.6-18.2 (2003)
CLEO Q2 11-12 (2005)
BES Q2 4-9 (2005)
BaBar Q2 2-20 (2005)
38- data neutron
- models
- Why TL FF ?
- What do we learn ?
- Which measurements ?
- Available data and models ?
FENICE Q2 3.7-6 (1994)
but always assumed GEN GMN Np,n
39- data
- models
- Why TL FF ?
- What do we learn ?
- Which measurements ?
- Available data and models ?
- Dispersion Relations (DR)
- analyticityunitarityVector Mesons
(VM) (Drechsel, Meissner, -
Hammer,
Hoehler,..) -
input exp. data (Baldini, Pacetti, )
- VM Dominance (VMD) based models (Iachello,
Bijker, Lomon, )
- CQM Light Front Form (Pace, Salmè, Simula,
) - \pi
cloud (Miller, Jennings, .. ) - Point Form (Pavia Graz
collaboration) - Diquark (Ma, )
- pQCD inspired (Brodsky, Ji, Belitski, Yuan,
..)
- reviews Brodsky et al. P.R. D69 (04) 054022
- Tomasi-Gustafsson et al.
E.P.J. A24 (05) 419
40Possible logo ?
(from Pacetti talk at Nucleon05)