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Title: Sex and Love


1
Sex and Love
  • 1. Whats up with Lost Highway and Vertigo?
  • What is Lost Highway about?
  • What is Vertigo about?
  • How are the two films related?
  • 2. Complete Sex/Love
  • According to Nagel, what constitutes complete
    sex? When is sex incomplete, or perverse?
  • How can we extend Nagels discussion and develop
    a concept of complete love?

2
  • Vertigo and Lost Highway
  • Comparison of Main Characters
  • Vertigo Lost Highway
  • John Scottie Ferguson Fred Madison/ Pete
    Dayton
  • Judy Barton/ Madeleine Elster Renee Madison/
    Alice Wakefield
  • Gavin Elster Mr. Eddy/ Dick Laurent
  • Marjorie Midge Wood Sheila
  • Plot Summary Theres no such thing as a bad
    coincidence.
  • Part A Man in relationship with woman that is
    incomplete.
  • Trial Man held accountable for womans death.
  • Part B Man tries to recreate old relationship
    with new woman.
  • Finale Fusion of A and B things turn out the
    same.

3
  • Identity Issues in Vertigo and Lost Highway
  • One woman becomes two, with distinct names,
    appearances
  • brunette real (LH-love interest) blond fake
    (V-love interest)
  • 3rd woman with similar appearance to love
    interest
  • Dual names/identities
  • Vertigo Madeleine/Judy John/Scottie
    Marjorie/Midge
  • Highway Renee/Alice Fred/Pete Mr. Eddy/Dick
    Laurent
  • Possession, fugue states Madeleine/Carlotta
    Fred/Pete
  • Memory loss Madeleine Pete

4
  • Comparison of Women in Vertigo
  • Person Jilted Lover of --- Death
  • Carlotta Valdez Unknown Suicide?
  • Madeleine Elster Gavin Murder?
  • Judy Barton Gavin, Scottie Accident?

5
  • Psychological Ailments in Vertigo
  • acrophobia df. an intense fear of heights
  • voyeurism df. deriving (sexual) pleasure from
    watching rather than doing
  • Scotties undressing of Madeleine is a form of
    necrophilia. (Hitchcock)

6
  • Psychological Ailments in Vertigo, cont.
  • Subconscious drives obsession/delusion/paranoia
  • Madeleines amnesic fugues (memory loss,
    possession) suicidal neurotic
  • Scotties fantasies turning subjective
    experiences into objective ones
  • Scotties obsession with Madeleine grows as does
    her obsession with death
  • Because of his obsession/love for Madeleine,
    Scottie has Judy change herself to become
    Madeleine
  • Scotties acute melancholia together with a
    guilt complex
  • Melancholia a mental condition characterized by
    extreme depression, bodily complaints, and often
    hallucinations and delusions esp a manic
    depressive psychosis

7
  • Thomas Nagel, Sexual Perversion
  • reciprocal desire a complex psychological
    interchange constitutes the natural development
    of sexual attraction (R 12)
  • . . . some version of this overlapping system of
    distinct sexual perceptions and interactions is
    the basic framework of any full-fledged sexual
    relation and that relations involving only part
    of the complex are significantly incomplete. (R
    15)
  • Complete sex involves a desire that ones
    partner be aroused by the recognition of ones
    desire that he or she be aroused. (R 15)
  • Examples of perverse acts ( incomplete acts)
  • narcissistic practices masturbation
  • intercourse with animals or infants
  • intercourse with inanimate objects necrophilia
  • sadism and masochism
  • voyeurism and exhibitionism

8
  • Time and Fate The Redwoods Scene
  • Madeleine I dont like . . . that we might have
    to die.
  • Concentric circles of redwood cyclic vs. linear
    time
  • circles, spirals vertigo, hair bun, redwood,
    staircase
  • Fatalism, destiny, eternal recurrence, necessity
    of the past
  • Scottie Theres a Chinese saying that once you
    save someones life, youre responsible for it
    forever.
  • Note theater scene from Twelve Monkeys (fatalism,
    etc.), and allusion to Vertigo (Kathryn changes
    hair color)
  • Note also that the beginning of The Matrix is an
    allusion to the beginning of Vertigo.

9
  • Questions about Vertigo
  • How does Scottie get down from the building? Why
    is he just left hanging? Is this a metaphor for
    something?
  • Why acrophobia? Is this a metaphor for something?
    (Scottie has a fear of falling . . . in love (a
    fear of commitment)!)
  • What is the significance of Madeleines loss of
    memory?
  • Who does Scottie love Madeleine, Judy, or
    Carlotta? Is Scottie really in love? Is Judy? Why
    doesnt Scottie love Midge?
  • What do the various references to circles and
    spirals mean?
  • Discuss some explicit examples of allusions to
    necrophilia and voyeurism in the film. Why are
    these ailments significant?

10
  • Comment on these passages from Vertigo
  • Scottie I didnt know that you wanted to be
    taken home that way.
  • . . . so I decided to undress you at my house
    instead!
  • Madeleine Its too late. Theres something I
    have to do.
  • Scottie Theres nothing you have to do. Youre
    not possessed by anyone.
  • Judy What do you want?
  • Scottie I just want to know who you are.
  • Scottie Theres one final thing I have to do
    and then Ill be free of the past. . . . I need
    you to be Madeleine for awhile and then well
    both be free.
  • Scottie I loved you so, Madeleine. . . . Its
    too late. Theres no bringing her back.

11
  • Questions about Lost Highway
  • What is the point of the circular theme of the
    film?
  • Begins and ends with Dick Laurent is dead!
  • Film as a Moebius strip. (Lynch and Gifford)
  • What is significant about Petes memory loss? the
    video tapes? Petes parents?
  • Who is the Mystery Man?
  • What is the significance of the burning cabin in
    the desert? the Lost Highway Hotel? the picture
    of Renee (and Alice)?
  • What is significant about the following real-life
    actors who play characters in the film Richard
    Prior, Gary Busey, Marilyn Manson, Henry Rollins,
    Robert Blake?

12
  • Comment on these passages from Lost Highway
  • Fred I like to remember things my own way.
  • Fred How did you get inside my house?
  • Mystery Man You invited me.
  • Sheila Why dont you like me?
  • Alice I was here earlier.
  • Pete Yeah, I remember.
  • Pete I killed him.
  • Pete Are both of them you?
  • Alice Dont you trust me, Pete?
  • Pete I want you! I want you!
  • Alice Youll never have me!

13
  • Vertigo (1958)
  • James Stewart .... John Scottie Ferguson
  • Kim Novak .... Madeleine Elster/Judy Barton
  • Barbara Bel Geddes .... Marjorie Midge Wood
  • Tom Helmore .... Gavin Elster
  • Henry Jones (I) .... Coroner
  • Raymond Bailey .... Scotties Doctor
  • Ellen Corby .... Manageress of McKittrick Hotel
  • Konstantin Shayne .... Pop Leibel
  • Lee Patrick .... Older Mistaken Identification

14
  • Lost Highway (1997)
  • Bill Pullman .... Fred Madison
  • Patricia Arquette .... Renee Madison/Alice
    Wakefield
  • Balthazar Getty .... Pete Dayton
  • Robert Blake .... Mystery Man
  • Natasha Gregson Wagner .... Sheila
  • Richard Pryor .... Arnie
  • Lucy Butler .... Candace Dayton
  • Michael Massee .... Andy
  • Jack Nance .... Phil
  • Jack Kehler .... Guard Johnny Mack
  • Henry Rollins .... Guard Henry
  • Giovanni Ribisi .... Steve V
  • Scott Coffey (I) .... Teddy
  • Gary Busey .... Bill Dayton
  • Robert Loggia .... Mr. Eddy/Dick Laurent
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