Bob Bath, EV enthusiast

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• Bob Bath, EV enthusiast
• Toyota First on the Road participant
• Builder, CivicWithACord

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History of EVs

• Late 1800s, first vehicles, believe it or not!

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History

• 1920-1940? General Motors and an oil company buy
  all of the electric streetcars in major cities,
  so that future transportation would rely on the
  automobile, not mass transit.

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History

• 1973 Arab Oil Embargo spawns EV converting
  hobbyists a few electric car companies, gasoline
  conservation electronics not quite there yet...
  

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History

• 1997 CARB mandates 4. CA 5B cost of lung
  damage. (Largest car market in US).

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My interest

• One of the common religious/philosophical values
  respect for creation.

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My interest

• Enjoyment of design/building!

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My interest

• Teaching best lessons are the ones we live.
  Curriculum amps, volts, series, parallel
  circuits
  
• Future high tech jobs for science students?

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My interest

• Economically prudent!
• (Gas over 2.41/gal?)

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Recent Developments

• 1997 OEMs come out with their products in
  response to CARB. Timing? Low gas prices
  
• Availability? Only by 3-yr. closed-end lease
  at 450/mo. (All models were snapped up).

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Recent Developments

• 1999 Bath family is selected for focus group
  drives hybrid Toyota Prius--

purchases first EV Mike Browns VoltsRabbit.
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Recent Developments

• 2000-2001
• Leases end
• OEMs reclaim, crush their EVs.

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Recent Developments

• 2002 Bob sells Rabbit begins construction on
  CivicWithACord.
  

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Recent Developments

• OEMS
• 2003 Toyota sells their EV (for a year), 42K,
  less IRS CARB incentives.
  
• Honda outfits 50 of the EVses with fuel (fool
  cells).
  
• GM crushes their EV-1s.

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Recent Developments

• 2004 Bob finishes CivicWithACord, with
  assistance of a book, a great welder, a good
  fabricator, and 4,000 EV enthusiasts on the
  Internet.

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Electric Vehicle design issues

• AC vs. DC controllers voltage, cost,
  regenerative braking
  
• Battery issues longevity, cost, voltage
• Cabin heating issues.
• Charging issues
• Weight/suspension
• Safety circuit breaker, H2 venting

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OEM EVs GM EV-1
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OEM EVs GM EV-1

• 2-seater. 600 manufactured. Leased by Saturn
• Built for speed! 0-60 under 6 sec.
• Underbody panel, side skirts.
• Lead acid, spiral-wound AGM batts.
• 60 mile range initially/6 yr. batt. life (100
  mi./10 yr. with Ni-MH batts).
  
• AC controller/regenerative braking
• 36,000 cost per unit in 1997 dollars.

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OEM EVs Honda EV
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OEM EVs Honda EV

• Nickel-Metal Hydride batteries, for 10-year,
  100K battery longevity
  
• 350 leased
• 5-seater
• 100-120 mile range
• AC controller, regenerative braking

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OEM EVs Toyota RAV-4EV
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OEM EVs Toyota RAV-4EV

• Nickel-Metal Hydride Batteries, 100 mi.
  range/long life
  
• 5-passenger seating
• AC controller/regenerative braking.
• 350 leased then 38 built per month sold

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OEM EVs Nissan Altra
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OEM EVs Nissan Altra

• Sony/Panasonic Lithium-Ion batteries. 60,000
  per pack, but 140 mile range, 15-year lifespan
  
• AC controller, regenerative braking
• 5-pass. seating large cargo area.
• ??? built fleet leased only.

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3rd party Conversions CivicWithACord
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3rd party Conversions CivicWithACord

• DC Controller Motor Lower voltage no
  regenerative braking
  
• Flooded lead acid batteries. Cheap (1,200)
  4 year life.
  
• Low cost to convert 9,000

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Electric Vehicle design issues

• AC vs. DC controllers voltage, cost, range,
  regenerative braking
  
• Battery issues
• longevity, cost,
• voltage, weight!
• Cabin heating
• issues.
• Charging
• issues

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Electric Vehicle design issues

• AC vs. DC controllers voltage, cost, range,
  regenerative braking
  

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Electric Vehicle design issues

• Battery issues longevity, cost, voltage,
  weight!
  

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Electric Vehicle design issues

• Cabin heating issues.

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Electric Vehicle design issues

• Charging issues

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The present future

• Dwindling easy-access petroleum sources,
• China, India, developing world consumption
  increasing
  
• Greenhouse effect worsening.
• Food prices rise as corn goes into ethanol
  production

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The future

• You WILL either be driving all-electric vehicles,
  bio-fueled vehicles, or riding a horse

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The reality

• 85 of our trips
• Can be made
• with EVs

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Realities

• OEMs dont want EVs.
• They have conned us into thinking that we MUST
  have more acceleration and range, instead of
  efficiency.

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Realities

• There are hidden costs of a petroleum-based
  society, eg. military, ecological, health, etc.

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Realities

• Petroleum a precious feedstock pharmaceuticals,
  plastics, much more!
  

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The Future

• Hybrids Theyve been proven waiting lists have
  dwindled. Plug-ins?
  
• EV comeback? Japanese dominance? China (Chery)
  India?
  
• Fuel cell vehicles? (FCV)
• Biodiesel/biofuels energy in energy out?
• Tax incentives?
• Military adopting hybrids?
• Natural gas (NG) vehicles?

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EVs in YOUR Future?

• 6,000-8000 to convert glider?
• Knowledge?
• Fabricator for adapter plate?
• Welder for batt. boxes?
• Time to work on it?
• Project management skills? (Ie, phone calling
  component placement)

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For More Information

• Mike Browns book, Convert It.

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For More Information

• My website Google CivicWithACord.

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For More Information

• ListServ EV Discussion List. 4,000 members
  with eclectic backgrounds!

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For More Information

• NEDRA at Woodburn!

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For More Information

• E-mail addr civicwithacord_at_yahoo.com

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