Title: Interim Evaluation Physician Assistants
1Interim Evaluation Physician Assistants
- Jane Farmer
- UHI Millennium Institute
Centre for Rural Health Research Policy
2Core Research Team
- Jane Farmer (Innovation in health), UHI
- Mags Currie (Researcher), UHI
- Professor Jeff Hyman, University of Aberdeen (HR
management) - Christina West (nurse/manager)
- Dr Neil Arnott (GP)
- (Patient representative)
3Introduction to evaluation
- Aim evaluate impact contribution of PAs to
effective healthcare - Objectives
- assess role contribution of PAs -
- Scope of practice
- Patient safety
- Team working
- Productivity
- Patient satisfaction
- Costs, benefits resources
- Cultural and social adaptation
- receptiveness of participating NHS Boards
partnership forums - assess the extent to which PAs integrate into
current clinical teams - evaluate time taken effectiveness of clinical
supervision - evaluate impact of PAs
4Current situation with PAs
- Started with 12 PAs
- 1st October 10 PAs
- 3 left, 1 leaving, 1 arrived Oct. 2007
- 4 more at recruitment stage for 2 NHS boards (new
settings) - All new PAs continue in evaluation
5Data collected by 1st October 07 (1)
- Feb/ March 2007, group ( individual) PA 1st
interviews - Exit interviews with PAs who have left
- Feb-April 2007 1st interviews with team members
- Written descriptions of Scope of Practice (SoP)
- Monthly MS-PA interaction forms Jan. 2007-
- MS time in supervision/ patient safety/ current
topics - Activity data for PAs / team members - March 2007
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- 2nd round data collection taken place/ happening
6Findings Scope of Practice
- SoP often not mapped prior to PA arrival
- PA role like junior doctors/ SHOs, GPs
- PAs bring continuity (context of MMC, etc)
- Unclear SoP
- may have negatively impacted integration
- team members take time to assess competence
- easier in small teams
- Concerns re PA often from poor understanding of
PA concept - Ability to demonstrate full capacity?
- prescribing
- deployment
- Does the project cover all settings that could
benefit?
7Scope of Practice PA flexibility
- I dont know whether its just his personality
or what, but I mean this guy is Mr Blue Peter and
can turn his hand to anything, hes very
accommodating, very enthusiastic and even
thoughI think he feels that his skills are being
under-utilised on it, because its a protocol
screening thing and so weve taken that on board
and the idea is that well use him relatively
short term to get the project up and running.
Once its going then well sort of dovetail a
nurse in at the back end and have perhaps
different nurses doing it through the course of
time but you know youve got confidence with
name of PA that it doesnt really matter what
you set him, hell go off - (Medical Supervisor, C)
8Patient Safety Satisfaction
- No significant patient safety concerns reported
- 2 cases of mistaken names detected before
problems - PAs considered confident autonomous
- Deal with cases in their SoP - seek help outside
this - Recruitment adverts not always matching final
placements - Comments about patients response to PAs positive
- take time with patients
- explain things to patients
- approachable and easy to talk to
9Patient Safety
- Im very happy with what she does I have a look
at her triage surgeries. Ill have a quick kind
of squint down through patients to see what shes
done to see if it would be what I would do with
them. But shes very good. I mean today she came
along and kind of blethered through a couple of
patients with me, which was great. And she had
made up her mind and she was just wanting to say
Is this okay? Is this what you would do?
Absolutely the same. - (Team Member 2 C)
10Team working
- Assessing competence small vs. large teams
- Initial scepticism as PAs settled in
- Issues related to PA integration/introduction
- preparedness of the team prior to PA arrival
- understanding of what a PA is
- team size
- perceived need or gap
- feedback for PA
- Flexible team working vs delegation within the
team (systems culture USA-UK NHS) -
11Cultural and Social Adaptation
- Time of arrival
- Support network of other PAs
- PA / Team interaction
- Introduction to setting and Scottish NHS
- Some inductions better than others
- NHS complex and confusing
- Main reasons for PAs leaving
- Social and cultural/ personal
12Productivity
- Similar to junior doctor in secondary care
- Relieve GP workload in primary settings
- Likely to increase with time
- Good on explaining/reassurance/advice sometimes
impacts on time with patient - Difficult for team to calculate?
- Comparative activity data collected used for
discussion
13Costs, Benefits and Resource Implications
- Viewed difficult to judge at this stage
- More beneficial with perceived need /gap
- Good - continuity in a setting
- Cost effectiveness
- Salary in relation to other professions
- Cost of training not presently incurred by NHS
- Cost of (perceived?) increased investigations
14Costs and benefits
- In a sense, we have in a PA, a well trained
clinically competent individual who comes with a
wealth of experience who doesnt require much in
the way of training, so she comes as a complete
package, if you like. Or almost a complete
package. As opposed to trying to train one of our
local nurses up to sufficient standards, so its
a quicker option and therefore theres not the
investment in training so I would imagine
(Medical Supervisor A) - Id initially been sceptical because I had
argued that well why are we importing people from
America, why cant we just train our nurses
better. However, having had it here, I would
recommend a PA well over the way that we
currently have our nurses trained. It is more
like having a second GP in the practice, rather
than a couple of nursing staff. (Team Member 3
C)
15PAs NPs
- Similarities
- Similar to junior docs
- Day to day running of wards
- Similar task profile
- Similar manager role
- Deal with problems nurses dont deal with
- Role appreciated by consultant
- Differences
- PAs more confident to ask suggest to consultant
- NPs all training in situ noted PAs quick
adaptation - NPs limited capacity to move between jobs
16PAs where they fit
- There does seem to be a difference in terms of
what a PA does, in terms of what a nurse does but
its difficult to find it within a team thats
already fairly cohesive because all these teams
are fairly cohesive. You know, there are, theres
no obvious gap for this person to sit, except
perhaps in place where there just wasnt enough
doctors. (Medical Supervisor C) - They the PAs get very fed up if theyre fed
into a kind of protocol driven environment so if
you get them to do chronic disease management
like a practice nurse, it doesnt seem to light
their fire. They find it too easy. Theyre much
more challenged by new diagnosis and, you know,
full work ups or spotting things that dont fit
with a protocol and trying to figure out whats
going on. They like that much more so. It would
suggest that they work much more like a doctor
than they do like a nurse. Hopefully Im not
being patronising as I say this. Medical
Supervisor - C
17Time taken effectiveness of clinical supervision
- Varied between settings
- Different to USA interaction
- Perceptions of what it should be time taken -
differed MSs/ PAs - Supervision received from a range of sources
- Some MSs unprepared for what PAs require/want
in supervision/ getting used to new system
18Time taken effectiveness of clinical
supervision - quote
- And my supervisor is great and I feel, I can
go to my supervisor any time with questions
and if I see the doors open and my
supervisors got a minute Ill sit down and say
Okay, well I had, this is, whats this? That
sort of thing. But in general I feel I can go to
any of the doctors which is nice to be able to
do. (PA - B2) - It all works very differently in the States and
they all have one supervisor and thats it. But
the way we work, we have to sort of transpose it
into the doctor type model because I cannot
guarantee, I do a shift pattern, and I cant
guarantee being on duty all the time with my PAs.
So what weve done is weve done exactly what we
do with the juniors. Im educational supervisor
for various junior doctors, doesnt mean Im on
with them all the time but there is always a
consultant on. (Medical Supervisor B)
19Flavour of whats to come
- Hints from current data collection
- Most are happier than last time
- But there are still some fragile areas
- Accept they are unable to change NHS?!
- Supervisor-PA relationship vital
- Feedback, interest, trust
- Team members are noting distinct roles
- NPs protocol driven
- PAs can do the grey areas
20Concluding remarks
- Many findings related to early stages arrival/
settling in - Many related to culture shock expectations
- A lot to expect people to uproot to Scotland/ NHS
for 2 years - A disruption for teams MSs too
- How differentiate the USA PAs from the real
importance of the role in Scotland? - If we grew our own PAs would they be like these?