Reeves Debate Charts

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Reeves Debate Charts

• Tuesday Night

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What We Are Are Not Denying
What We Are Not Are Denying

• What we are denying
• That salvation is unconditional (2 Pet 39)
• That men are justified by faith ONLY (James
  224)
• That baptism is a nonessential to salvation! (1
  Peter 321)

• What we are NOT denying
• That God is the one who saves.
• That salvation is by GRACE through FAITH (Eph
  28,9 John 316 Rom 51 Heb 116)

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This Discussion Is About Three Points
What This Discussion Is About
God's Universal Love and desire to save all men.
Mans ability to respond to Gods love by choosing
saving faith.
The faith that submits to Gods sovereign will by
obeying Him.
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How Much Obedience Is Enough
"Salvation By Grace Through Faith"
How Much Obedience Is Enough?

• In order for Noahs family to be saved? Gen
  68, 22 75 Heb 117 1 Peter 321
• In order for the walls of Jericho to fall?
  Josh. 62, 20 Heb. 1130
• In order for Naaman to be cleansed of his
  leprosy? 2 Kings 510-14
• In order for the 3,000 on the day of Pentecost to
  receive the remission of their sins? Acts 238
• In order for the erring child of God to be
  forgiven of sin? Acts 819-24 1 John 17-9

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Questions for Tuesday night
Questions for Tuesday Night

• Does water baptism, (taking a bath G.C.Jr.)
  earn the benefit of Christs sacrifice on the
  cross?
• Is Genesis 156 the record of Abrahams initial
  justification?
• Is the new birth unconditional?
• If I am not one of the elect, is there anything
  that I can do about it?
• Last night you stated that God desired that all
  men be saved. What is the difference between
  Divine desire Divine will?

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Non Elect Infant Question Quote
Abortion Quote
The Nature of God
Non elect infants who die in their infancy
will spend eternity in hell I would answer
true to that question, you have to be elect in
order to be saved. If this question is false,
then we should perform abortion, because abortion
is the greatest evangelistic act that has ever
taken place since the time that Jesus walked the
face of the earth, because everyone of those
children are going straight to heaven according
to Mr. Browns theology (David P. Brown Gene
Cook, Jr. Debate, Feb 16, 2000)
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Washing of Regeneration - Titus 34-5
Apostolic Teaching On Water Baptism

• Divine initiative
• Kindness
• Love
• Mercy
• Saved when?

Titus 34-5 (YLT) and when the kindness and the
love to men of God our Saviour did appear 5
(not by works that are in righteousness that we
did but according to His kindness,) He did save
us, through a bathing of regeneration, and a
renewing of the Holy Spirit,
Not due to works of righteousness

• Washing of regeneration (i.e. baptism)
• Renewing of the Holy Spirit
• Acts 238 John 35 Eph. 526

THROUGH
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The Faith of Abraham
The Faith Of Abraham The Faith That Saves!
Romans 412 (NKJV) and the father of
circumcision to those who not only are of the
circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of
the faith which our father Abraham had while
still uncircumcised.
Genesis 124 Hebrews 118
Genesis 156 Romans 41-4,12
Genesis 134 Hebrews 119
Genesis 223,12,16,18 James 221-25
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Works Used in Different Ways
The Word "Works"
Of Merit Ephesians 28 Titus 35
Where Do Repentance, Confession Baptism
Belong?
A System of Sinless Perfection Romans 327
42-8 116
WORKS
Of Faith 1 Thes 13 James 214-26 (Defines the
kind of faith that saves)
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Romans 15 - obedience to the faith (beginning)
Two Systems Contrasted
The Book of Romans
Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless
perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel
which provides forgiveness)? (327)
Romans 15 (NKJV) Through Him we have
received grace and apostleship for obedience to
the faith among all nations for His name,
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Romans 616-18 obedience unto righteousness
(Middle)
Two Systems Contrasted
The Book of Romans
Romans 616-18 (KJV) Know ye not, that to
whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his
servants ye are to whom ye obey whether of sin
unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the
servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the
heart that form of doctrine which was delivered
you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye
became the servants of righteousness.
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Romans 4 Works Not Equal To Obedient Faith
Two Systems Contrasted
In Romans 4
Works Obedience 3 . . . Abraham
believed God, and it was accounted to him for
righteousness. dikaiosune, 5 . . . his faith
is accounted for righteousness, dikaiosune, 6
. . God imputes righteousness dikaiosune, apart
from works. Romans 616-18 . . . obedience
leading to righteousness? dikaiosune,
Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless
perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel
which provides forgiveness)? (327)

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Romans 1626 - for obedience to the faith- (End)
Two Systems Contrasted
The Book of Romans
Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless
perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel
which provides forgiveness)? (327)
Romans 1626 (NKJV) but now has been made
manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures has
been made known to all nations, according to the
commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience
to the faith--
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Romans 4 Two systems Rom 327
Two Systems Contrasted
The Book of Romans
Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless
perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel
which provides forgiveness)? (327)
Romans 327-28 (NKJV) Where is boasting
then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No,
but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we
conclude that a man is justified by faith apart
from the deeds of the law.
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Romans 42-3
Two Systems Contrasted
In Romans 4
Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless
perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel
which provides forgiveness)? (327)
Romans 42-3 (NKJV) For if Abraham was
justified by works, he has something to boast
about, but not before God. 3 For what does the
Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was
accounted to him for righteousness."
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Romans 46-8
Two Systems Contrasted
In Romans 4
Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless
perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel
which provides forgiveness)? (327)
Romans 46-8 (NKJV) just as David also
describes the blessedness of the man to whom God
imputes righteousness apart from works
7"Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are
forgiven, And whose sins are covered 8 Blessed
is the man to whom the Lord shall not impute sin."
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Romans 4 Works Not Equal To Obedient Faith
Two Systems Contrasted
In Romans 4
Works Obedience 3 . . . Abraham
believed God, and it was accounted to him for
righteousness. dikaiosune, 5 . . . his faith
is accounted for righteousness, dikaiosune, 6
. . God imputes righteousness dikaiosune, apart
from works. Romans 616-18 . . . obedience
leading to righteousness? dikaiosune,
Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless
perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel
which provides forgiveness)? (327)

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Acts 812-17 - What Put The Samaritans Into
Christ?
What Put The Samaritans Into Christ?
One enters Christ through baptism
Romans 63-6 1 Corinthians 1213 Galatians
326,27

• The Samaritans were saved and in Christ in Acts
  812. Yet, they had only been baptized in the
  name of Jesus Christ (i.e. water baptism, Acts
  1047,48)
• They had received no miraculous measure of the
  Holy Spirit! (thus no Holy Spirit baptism had
  occurred!) (Acts 815-17)
• Water baptism is the baptism of Romans 63-6
  Galatians 327 1 Corinthians 1213 which PUTS
  one INTO Christ!

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Acts 1630-34 - Text
The Scriptures Teach Water Baptism Is Necessary!
Acts 1630-34 (NKJV) And he brought them
out and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus
Christ, and you will be saved, you and your
household." 32 Then they spoke the word of the
Lord to him and to all who were in his house.
33 And he took them the same hour of the night
and washed their stripes. And immediately he and
all his family were baptized. 34 Now when he
had brought them into his house, he set food
before them and he rejoiced, having believed in
God with all his household.
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How Much Obedience Is Enough
"Salvation By Grace Through Faith"
How Much Obedience Is Enough?

• In order for Noahs family to be saved? Gen
  68, 22 75 Heb 117 1 Peter 321
• In order for the walls of Jericho to fall?
  Josh. 62, 20 Heb. 1130
• In order for Naaman to be cleansed of his
  leprosy? 2 Kings 510-14
• In order for the 3,000 on the day of Pentecost to
  receive the remission of their sins? Acts 238
• In order for the erring child of God to be
  forgiven of sin? Acts 819-24 1 John 17-9

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We Can Choose Faith! Ezek. 1820-32
We Can Choose Faith!
Ezekiel 1820-32 (NKJV) 23 Do I have any
pleasure at all that the wicked should die?" says
the Lord God, "and not that he should turn from
his ways and live? . . . .32 For I have no
pleasure in the death of one who dies," says the
Lord God. "Therefore turn and live!
God is just, (i.e. for God to hold man
accountable for what he is not able to do is
unfair)!
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The Faith of Abraham
The Faith Of Abraham The Faith That Saves!
Romans 412 (NKJV) and the father of
circumcision to those who not only are of the
circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of
the faith which our father Abraham had while
still uncircumcised.
Genesis 124 Hebrews 118
Genesis 156 Romans 41-4,12
Genesis 134 Hebrews 119
Genesis 223,12,16,18 James 221-25
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Romans 63-6 - Text
Apostolic Teaching On Water Baptism
Romans 63-6 (NKJV) Or do you not know that
as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus
were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we
were buried with Him through baptism into death,
that just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, even so we also should
walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been
united together in the likeness of His death,
certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His
resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man
was crucified with Him, that the body of sin
might be done away with, that we should no longer
be slaves of sin.
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Mr Cook Doesnt Know What The Word Only Means!
What Put The Samaritans Into Christ?
James 224 (NKJV) You see then that a man is
justified by works, and not by faith only. Acts
815-18 (NKJV) who, when they had come
down, prayed for them that they might receive the
Holy Spirit. 16 For as yet He had fallen upon
none of them. They had only been baptized in the
name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then they laid hands
on them, and they received the Holy Spirit. 18
And when Simon saw that through the laying on of
the apostles' hands the Holy Spirit was given, he
offered them money,
Mr. Cook doesnt know what the word ONLY
means!
FAITH ONLY
Holy Spirit Baptism
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Buried With Him In Baptism - Col. 212-13
Apostolic Teaching On Water Baptism

• A Burial
• With Jesus in baptism
• In WHICH we are raised with Jesus
• Through FAITH
• When God works
• God makes one alive by forgiving one of his sins
  (11) Joshua 6 2 Kings 514 1 Pet 321

Col. 212-13 (NKJV) buried with Him in
baptism, in which you also were raised with Him
through faith in the working of God, who raised
Him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in
your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your
flesh, He has made alive together with Him,
having forgiven you all trespasses,
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When Did Saul Obey The Great Commission? What
He Did
The Scriptures Teach Water Baptism Is Necessary!
When Did Saul Obey The Great Commission?
Acts 2216 (NKJV) And now why are you
waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away
your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.'

• When he arose and was baptized Acts 918 2216
• His sins were washed away
• He called on the name of the Lord
• Then he ate Acts 919

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When Did Saul Obey The Great Commission? What
He Must Do
The Scriptures Teach Water Baptism Is Necessary!
When Did Saul Obey The Great Commission?

• Go into Damascus
• You will be told what you MUST do, (Acts 96)
• there it shall be told thee of all things which
  are appointed for thee to do. (Acts 2210)
• What was he told to do?
• why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and
  wash away your sins, calling on the name of the
  Lord. (2216)

"What shall I do, Lord?"
Acts 2210
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Propositions
Resolved The scriptures teach that the alien
sinner is forgiven of his past sins by faith
only, before and without water baptism Affirm
Gene Cook Jr. Deny Bruce Reeves
Gene Cook Jr.
Resolved The scriptures teach that water baptism
is essential in order for the alien sinner to
obtain the forgiveness of his past sins. Affirm
Bruce Reeves Deny Gene Cook Jr.
Bruce Reeves
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