Did High Frequency Trading (HFT) firms win on Avon

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High frequency trading computers probably can’t distinguish between an orderly market, and one where sudden spikes are cause by some news that can only interpreted by humans. Seeing the order flow come in probably triggered several high frequency firms computers to “step in” and buy. But when does it sell ? Most of these firms probably have hard profit targets when their computer algorithms kick in again to sell. So in all likelihood, the High Frequency trading computers got in, and then got out perhaps too early, thereby leaving a ton of money on the table. – PowerPoint PPT presentation

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Title: Did High Frequency Trading (HFT) firms win on Avon


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  • Did High Frequency Trading (HFT) firms win on
    Avon
  • High Frequency trading
  • gets bad rap
  • Author Hari Swaminathan

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  • In case you missed this, last week, there was
    apparently a buyout offer for Avon Products by an
    unrecognized private equity player from the
    UK. Shares shot up beginning around 1135 a.m.
    and twenty times as many shares as usual changed
    hands in 25 minutes as the stock went from 6.60
    to 8. But HFT firms were unlikely to be on the
    winning side, Bloomberg reports here.
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  • High frequency trading computers probably cant
    distinguish between an orderly market, and one
    where sudden spikes are cause by some news that
    can only interpreted by humans. Seeing the order
    flow come in probably triggered several high
    frequency firms computers to step in and buy.
    But when does it sell ? Most of these firms
    probably have hard profit targets when their
    computer algorithms kick in again to sell. So in
    all likelihood, the High Frequency trading
    computers got in, and then got out perhaps too
    early, thereby leaving a ton of money on the
    table. 

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  • But once again, the mighty U.S. stock markets
    proved vulnerable to manipulation. And it comes
    right after the indictment of Navinder Singh
    Sarao in the UK, who is allegedly responsible for
    creating the feared May 10, 2010 Flash Crash.
    Seriously, one person can do this ??? 
  • What amazes me is that whenever there is any
    kind of vulnerability exposed in the market, and
    even though the powers-that-be have no clue what
    just happened, media and the general public dont
    wait a nanosecond to point the finger at High
    Frequency trading firms. The Flash Boys are
    indeed the Whipping Boys of the markets.
  • Heres a more typical High Frequency trading
    play, and this post was written sometime in early
    2014 when High Frequency firms were clearly
    expecting a move from the ISM number, and their
    computers were ready to cash in. The graphs are
    fascinating, and we get a very deep look into the
    nano-world of High Frequency trading.

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  • High Frequency Trading (HFT) action on ISM
  • There was an article on Zerohedge yesterday
    on High Frequency Trading (HFT) sample. You can
    read the complete post here 
  • Please click the images for larger sizes (Images
    credit Zerohedge / Nanex). 
  • Summary of key points
  • - Yesterdays ISM numbers were supposed to be
    released at 10 am ET
  • - Some HFT firms apparently got the information
    15 milliseconds earlier and executed large orders
    on the SPY (at 95959.985 am)
  • - Similar activity can be noticed on the
    ES Futures 8 milliseconds prior to 10 am
    (95959.992 am)
  • - Why the difference in 7 milliseconds ? The ISM
    number is released in NYC, and the E-minis are
    traded in Chicago. Thats how long it takes (7
    milliseconds speed of light to travel from NYC
    to Chicago) for the data to travel from NYC to
    Chicago.

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  • My question is does this kind of trading
    affect average people at all ? Let these guys
    spend a gazillion dollars on superfast computers
    and fight for first place in a race thats
    entirely between themselves. Average investors
    are not fighting for this edge. Im not an expert
    on HFT, but it seems like this fight is
    completely HFT vs HFT, much like big-city rival
    gangs. Or am i missing something ? Please weigh
    in if you are knowledgeable in this area. 
  • Regardless, its a fascinating look at how High
    frequency trading sample works in the markets.
    The article seems to suggest that there could be
    hanky-panky involved in the fact that this data
    was available to certain players ahead of time.
    Yes, this is definitely a problem if it is true.
    But whose clocks are they going by ? Whats to
    say that the data itself was not released 15
    milliseconds earlier than 10 am sharp ). Im
    just amazed to see that transactions are being
    recorded and documented at the millisecond level.
    Both charts below show SPY and ES trading volumes
    at the millisecond level for different exchanges.
    Check out these awesome charts..Both charts show
    volume in a span of 150 milliseconds, which is
    just 15 of 1 second.

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