Title: Managing common mental health problems in pediatric primary care
1Managing common mental health problems in
pediatric primary care
- Jane Foy, MD, and Larry Wissow, MD
2Goals
- Use interactive skills in the course of routine
visits to improve clinical outcomes for children
with emotional and behavioral problems - Develop a personalized tool-kit of evidence based
interventions for first-line responses to common
emotional and behavioral problems
3Disclosure
- No conflicts to report
- Grateful to funders and collaborators
- Duke Endowment
- National Institute of Mental Health
- North Carolina chapter of the AAP
4Outline of workshop
- Lunch
- Getting acquainted
- Self-assessment
- About 2 hours to go over video clips of
interactive skills - About 1 hour to talk about a toolbox of
broad-based treatment elements
5Background/philosophy
- Pediatric practices see same range of severity as
child psychiatrists - But distribution varies
- Many different ways to cope
- Good triage
- Develop your own skills
- Co-locate with mental health
6Core needs
- Efficiently rule out emergencies
- Provide immediate relief and advice
- Develop a mutually agreeable plan for next steps
- Stay in control of the visit and balance the
needs of this patient with the needs of others
7To meet core needs
- Core capability for any solution might be called
alliance with family - Partnership, engagement
- Data from adult primary care studies of
depression treatment - Relationship with provider predicted engagement
and outcome - Van Os TW. J Affect Disord 20058443-51.
Frémongt P. Encephale 200834205-10.
8Why start with a focus on alliance?
- Advice alone isnt enough
- lt 50 of psychosocial concerns disclosed
- lt 50 of mental health referrals kept
- lt 50 of children who start mental health
treatment finish - Evidence from psychotherapy
- Predicts outcome over and above any specific
treatment (including medications)
9Elements of alliance in psychotherapy
- Agreement on nature of problem
- Agreement on what to do (and when to do it)
- Affective bond with provider
- Trust
- Optimism
- Relief
10The feeling
- How many feel they can tell when the relationship
is working (or will work)? - How do you know?
- How often are you right?
11Why alliance especially with mental health issues?
- Particularly stigmatizing
- Doubt and equivocation part of the illness
- Not sure that youre the one to tell
- Afraid to hear the answer
12 What builds alliance?
- Evidence that process starts with initial
interaction with office - Image of relationship built from staff as a
whole, not just those with most contact - Patients value flexible, open staff who can
- pinch hit for each other
- help trouble shoot problems
- speed things up when needed
- realize when the patients context has changed
- Ware NC. Psychiatr Serv. 199950395-400.
Pulido R. Arch Psych Nursing 200822277-87. -
13Patient trust and practice climate
- Adult primary care patients trust in provider
related to - Physicians and staff reporting better
collaboration with each other, more autonomy,
ability to delegate to each other - Trust then relates to
- Attribution of influence over healthy behaviors
to provider recommendations - Becker ER, Medical Care 200846795-805
14Alliance building 11
- Feeling heard and understood (the bond)
- Seeking agreement on a working formulation of the
problem - Seeking permission to offer advice
151. Feeling heard and understood
- Heard active listening
- Creating the illusion of taking time
- Verbal and non-verbal indicators of paying
attention - Interventions that co-construct the story
- Understood agreement on the nature of the
concerns and the highest priorities
162. Seeking agreement on a working formulation of
the problem
- Asking for permission to gather more information
- Opportunity to open up more sensitive areas, rule
outs, emergencies - Asking for permission to offer a preliminary idea
of the problem - Asking if youve got it
- Cycling back to more questions
173. Seeking permission to offer advice
- Ready to act?
- If not, what would it take?
- What can we do now?
- What might we need to do next?
- Responding to no
181. Feeling heard and understood
19Shaping concerns and managing time
- Open-ended questions
- Anything else
- Breaking into the long story
- Managing break-ins and rambling
20Skills for rambling (co-construction)
- I want to make sure we dont run out of time
- Summarize your understanding and ask for
additional concerns - Specifically ask for focus
- Which one of those is hardest?
- Pick one of those to start with.
- Ask for a specific example
21Pick one
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22Two in the visit skills when turn-taking
interrupted
- Possible tactics
- Shift in body language
- Acknowledge and re-direct
- Reminder of rules
- Considerations
- Timing
- Status of person interrupting or interrupted
23Enforcing taking turns - child
24Skills when participants are angry at each other
- Rationale
- Want to manage negative affect in the visit (and
help people move on to problem solving) - Want to demonstrate that dialog is possible
- Several flavors of extreme statements
- Black or white statements leave no room for
discussion - Critical comments about family members
- Set-ups involving vague, value-laden goals
25Responding to black or white
- Characterized by always, never, or similar
words - Point out and ask for restatement
- Be prepared if you choose to challenge the
generalization - Alternative ask for something easier to hear
26Responding to black or white with say
something easier
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27Common issues in agenda setting
- Parent and child/youth have different priorities
- Family priorities not same as yours
- Opportunities for additional visits are limited
- You really do want to accomplish more than you
have time for!
28Skills for agenda setting
- Making sure this process is clear to
patient/parent - Playing back the list of concerns
- Asking for priorities
- Getting agreement from all parties
- Openly and collaboratively problem solve about
limitations on follow-up visits
292. Getting to agreement on a working formulation
- Why ask for permission to get more information?
- What is it that you want to know?
- Sensitive but important details
- Data related to possibly urgent treatment needs
(including overall level of function) - What they think might be the underlying cause
30Small group task
- Tables for issues that sound like they fall
into broad categories of ADHD, depression,
opposition, anxiety, substance use
31Small group task
- Brainstorm most efficient ways to ask about
- Overall function and possible indicators of need
for urgent care - Sensitive but possibly important information
related to the child or family - Somatic causes
- What child/family has already thought about as
cause/underlying issue
32Reports from groups
- Focus on the first 2-3 minutes worth of questions
that will help you decide where you are going
with this problem
33Hint about severity/function
- Questions from SDQ
- Do the difficulties you mentioned distress you
(teen) or your child (younger child)? - How much?
- How much do they interfere with life?
- At home
- With friends
- In school
- In other activities
343. Asking for permission to offer advice
- Summing up your thinking and checking for
agreement - May need to cycle back to get more information
- Do they still agree that this is something they
want to do something about? - If no, what should be monitored, what would it
take?
35Giving advice
- Rationale
- Being directive can fail even when people want
help - Anxiety, ambivalence, shame, loss of control
- Medical provider is usually not the first person
in the chain of consultation - People come with prior ideas and opinions (about
cause, condition, treatment) that need to be
incorporated - People will accept advice they cant follow
- Need to actively identify barriers
36Asking about readiness to act
- People may be aware of a problem but not yet
ready to act on it - The kind of advice needed depends on this stage
of change - Mis-matched advice likely to be rejected
- If ready get permission to give advice
- If not ready what would motivate action?
37What would be grounds to act?
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38When you get to give advice
- Ask for permission
- Helps patients maintain sense of control
- Ask for their ideas
- Offer advice as set of choices
- Preferably include their ideas among choices
- Frame as short and long term plans
- What might help now
- What diagnostic steps to take
39Asking about barriers
- Easy to skip this step in a quick visit
- Evidence suggests even motivated patients
appreciate help with logistics - Asking allows people to think through and get
more committed to plan - Opportunity to build alliance and anticipate
resistance
40Responding to resistance
- Overall, emphasize choice and time to discuss
- Apologize for getting ahead
- Agreeing with a twist
- What would it take?
41Getting information apologize for getting ahead
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42Getting information what would be grounds to act?
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43Agree with a twist and inform
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44First-pass evidence-based intervention practice
elements
- Four clusters account for much of what is seen in
primary care - Low mood, anxiety, conduct, attention
- There are many evidence-based treatments for
child mental health problems - Though they vary in content and intensity,
treatments for any one or related condition have
many features in common - Candidates for initial treatment
- (hawaii.gov/health/mental-health/camhd/library/pdf
/ebs/ebs011.pdf)
45Practice elements for treating childhood anxiety
46Menu of common elements
- Anxiety
- Graded exposure, modeling
- ADHD and oppositional problems
- Tangible rewards, praise for child and parent,
help with monitoring, time out, effective
commands and limit setting, parent
psychoeducation, response cost - Low mood
- Child psychoeducation, cognitive/coping methods,
problem-solving strategies, activity scheduling,
behavioral rehearsal, social skills building -
47A personalized, evidence-based, broadly
applicable toolkit
48When would you use these?
- Function good, watchful waiting, mild symptoms
- Holding pattern delay till mental health
appointment - Adjunct to medicationonly treatment
49Common elements for depression
- Psychoeducation
- Tactful and perhaps private exploration of family
history (reduce stigma, increase empathy)
50Common elements for low mood
- Environment
- Reduce stresses and increase supports.
- Think about short term changes in demands and
responsibilities for teen AND other family
members - Removing weapons, toxins, and alcohol regardless
of concern for suicidality - Talk about high prevalence and lack of
relationship to character, strength, etc. - Emphasize effectiveness (though slow pace) of
treatment
51Common elements for depression
- Cognitive and coping skills (your favorites)
- Normalize common life setbacks and suggest
mantras or self-talk - Prescribe self-care (rest, good diet, exercise)
as evidence-based approaches - Prescribe relaxation and visualization (but may
need someone else in the office to take the time
to give instruction) - Encourage a focus on strengths prescribe more
activities that involve these things
52Problem-solving skills
- What small, achievable act would indicate
progress? - List difficulties/tasks
- Prioritize
- Give permission to concentrate first on one issue
at a time
53Behavioral rehearsal and social skills
- Identify problem interactions that trigger low
mood or conflict - Can they be avoided?
- Are alternative responses possible?
- Mentally anticipate and practice responses.
54Medication for depression
- FDA labeled or good evidence for teens
- Fluoxetine (MDD)
- The black box warnings
- Increased thoughts not acts
- Paroxetine worst for agitation
- Benefit seems to outweigh risk
- For children 8 and older
55Medication effectiveness
- Number needed to treat about 10
- Response is slow need 12 weeks of increased
doses at 4-week intervals to give a fair trial is
see partial response - For any treatment (med or not) continue 6-12
months following recovery
56Common elements for anxiety
- Environment
- What real anxiety-provoking issues are present?
- Consider asking parent privately about
undisclosed illnesses, losses, stresses. - Are there catastrophic consequences for
failure? - Does the parent have an anxiety problem also?
- Help parents minimize their own displays of fear
or worry.
57Graded exposure
- Ultimately goal is mastery rather than avoidance
- Underlying principle is de-sensitization
- Plan for gradually increasing exposure in
supportive way - Over time exposures get longer, more direct, less
supported
58Graded exposure
- Imagining or talking about the feared
object/situation - Tolerating short exposures or looking at pictures
with lots of support - Tolerating progressively longer exposure in group
or with coach - Tolerating alone but with ability to get help
59Modeling
- Trusted adults engage in feared behavior or
analogue - Vocalize feelings, openly reveal their own
anxieties and coping strategies - Normalizing caution
- Model coping and safety strategies
60Medication for anxiety
- As with depression, modestly effective
- FDA approved and good evidence
- fluvoxamine (anxiety)
- fluoxetine (OCD)
61Summing up
- About organizational and educational needs?
- About building alliance?
- About core treatment elements?