Title: 06079 PSAWG Special Meeting: ISSI Packet Data Architecture
106-079 PSAWG Special MeetingISSI Packet Data
Architecture
- July 11-13, 2006
- Tom Hengeveld, Tyco/Electronics M/A-COM, Chair
2Important Notice for Participation and Call for
IPR
3Goal of the Meetings
- Arrive at a concensus architecture for Packet
Data over the ISSI - Develop a common understanding of SNDCP
- Identify target cases/requirements including
network models - Develop concensus Functional Model
- What are all the pieces parts involved, how are
they interconnected, and what protocols are used
to connect them? - What is the role of an Access Point?
- What protocol covers the relationship between an
Access Point and an SNDCP end-point? - Other Concerns
- Develop a concensus primitive model
- Assign an author/authors for the next draft of
the Architecture section
4Agenda for the Meetings
- Attendance by Sign-in Sheet
- Tuesday
- Background - A Common Understanding of SNDCP
- Overview of SNDCP Context Establishment Data
Elements (This ppt, Tom Hengeveld) - EADS/NN Presentation on Context Activation
- Discussion of De-registration (Jim Eastwood)
- Other Questions
- Target Environment/Network Models
- Target Model Cases (this ppt, Tom Hengeveld)
- 06-078 Lucent Misc. Comments through Slide 8 (Tom
Chu) - I/P Address Assignment (EADS/NN Presentation?)
- Functional Model (Wednesday)
- System Functional Model/Identification of Parts
- Decomposition by Home/Serving RFSS
- Lucent Misc. Comments Remaining Slides
- Primitive Model (Thursday)
5Other Stuff
- Start at 8/830 each day
- The hotel made me buy a certain amount of food,
so - Theyll be coffee and stuff (as you see) each
morning. - Ive got afternoon coffee and beverages coming at
2 - Lunch on your own (noonish to 1pm)
- Various breaks as we need
6Nearby Resturants
- Various Places
- Lilac Blossom Very Good Chinese Right out of
the parking lot, or walk about ¾ of a mile. - Panera Left out of the parking lot, turn into
shaws plaza, right and right again, or walk
about ¾ of a mile. - Legal Seafoods if you want to drive to the
Burlington Mall Best Fish Anywhere, no contest,
not cheap. - Giorgios Amherst NH Good Italian with Good
Martinis - Bertucchis Nasha on 101A Brick Oven Italian
- YuYus Japanese Great Sushi, Good Bar Exit
6 - Bugaboo Creek Outback from Canada
- Marthas Very Good Beer in the Center of Nashua
(CON) - Surf Not my favorite but people like it. Fish
with too much sauce in the CON.
- Margaritas Somewhere in the CON, decent
tex-mex with a good bar - On the Strip
- Left out of the parking lot, right at Danial
Webster - Longhorn Steakhouse
- Lui Luis Italian
- Unos
- Chilis
- Smokey Bones
- Outback
- On the Border
- Left at Danial Webster
- Mexican place on the right that I dont know the
name of but it doesnt totally stink.
7A Common Understanding of SNDCP Slides to
stimulate conversation
8Context Activation
RFSS
MRC
Activate Context Request
Activate Context Accept
Activate Context Reject
If the RFSS doesnt like a setting suggested by
the mobile, does it reject the request, or
suggest different settings?
RFSS
MRC
IP Packet?
Activate Context Command
Activate Context Request
Activate Context Accept
9Apparently, it looks like this
Access Point 1
User Network 1
???
MRC SNDCP End-point
FNE SNDCP End-point
Access Point n
User Network n
10A Picture from BAEB-A
11A Paragraph from BAEB-A
12Another paragraph from BAEB-A
13Another paragraph from BAEB-A
14Negotiated SNDCP Parameters
ACR Activate Context Request, ACA Activate
Context Accept X Interested, C Controls, P
Present
15Negotiated SNDCP Parameters
16Other questions
- Why does PPP have significance over the air?
Jim Eastwood - Why do we send PPP information in the PCO value
over the air? - How is priority used in SNDCP?
- Can multiple contexts share an IP address? (u1 on
EADS/NN proposal)
17Key Discriminators
CP M1
Ed
Ed
Context Activation
Context Transfer
Home M1
Home M2
Serving M1 New
H2H Data Tunnel
Serving/ Home Tunnel
Serving/Home Tunnel
Serving/Home Tunnel
Context Modification
Context Transfer
Context Deactivation
Serving M1 Old
M1
Serving M2
M2
18We Agree
19We agree
- BAEB-A (pg 45, 4.4.5.2) requires sequential use
of NSAPIs by the MRC. We believe that this
restriction should be removed (TAH has an action
to send something to 8.05 to make this happen). - BAEB-A (4.4.4.1,4.4.4.2) allow the RFSS to change
Ready timer value with unsolicited Context
Accept, we believe it would be useful to extend
this to the DAC value. - Maybe on compression and other values as well.
(Jackson has an action to enumerate candidates
and well figure out the right behaviors) - That AABD should clarify what makes you become
unregistered. - That we need to go all the wayto 3 on the
target model cases that we agree on slide. - We agree that a mobile or FES ip address is
unique within an APN - EADS requires that we not preclude MRC addresses
being allocated from the address space of the
ISSI - Moto (And M/A-COM) require that we not preclude
MRC addresses being allocated from the address
space of the customer premises
20We also agree
- That mobiles from a particular addressing realm
may be homed to different home RFSSs - That different customer agencies that have no
need to talk to each other may have overlapping
address spaces distinguished over the air by the
APN. - That different customer premises with the same
APN may exist.
21we seem to agree that the ISSI cannot preclude
thisImplementation of Ed
CP 1
Consistent IP Network
10.12.1.
Ed
ITA 10.12.1.x
CP 1 10.12.2.x
10.12.2.
IT A
RFG
Ed
MR1 10.12.3.x
Prop.
RFG
Home RFSS MR1
Ed
10.12.0.0
Ed
Prop.
RFG
MR1
Prop.
10.12.3.
Home RFSS MR2
RFG
10.12.4.
Prop.
MR2
22Nor can it preclude this implementation of Ed
CP 1
10.12.1.1
Ed
SRC CP1 10.12.1.1
Dest MR1 10.12.3.1
For each IP address, destination tunnel
(H-MR1(APN1))
Fred
10.12.2.
IT A
SRC Fred 10.1.1.17
Dest MRC Address in ISSI Space 10.1.99.1
Ed
Dest home RFSS 10.1.1.1
SRC CP1 10.12.1.1
Dest MR1 10.12.3.1
Larry
Home RFSS MR1 (10.1.1.1)
For each APN, he has an rx addr (or addr/port)
Home RFSS MR2
MR1
10.12.3.1
10.12.4.
MR2
23At this level of complexity, we still seem to
agree
Agency 1
CP 2
10.12.1.
Ed
ITA 10.12.1.x
CP 1 10.12.2.x
CP 1
10.12.1.
Ed
10.12.2.
IT B
MR1 10.12.3.x
10.12.0.0
RFG
Ed
10.12.2.
Prop.
IT A
SAME STINKING IP ADDRESSES
RFG
RFG
Ed
Agency 2
Prop.
Prop.
ITB 10.12.1.x
CP 2 10.12.2.x
RFG
Home RFSS
Prop.
10.12.3.
MR2 10.12.3.x
10.12.0.0
MR110.12.4.1
MR2 10.12.4.1
EADS Wants to standardize this interface.
24Silly Notes
- Home RFSS (?) needs to be able to route packets
between mobiles in the same APN? - It might make sense to define a PSAWG work item
to add greater specificity to Ed - We believe that it makes sense to constitute an
ad hoc group to explore interoperation of BB, WB,
HSD and P25 data.
25Big Hairy Issues
- The use of the APN is not clearly defined. It is
identified as (potentially) representing any of
three different things - Vague definition from BAEB-A
- SNDCP endpoint within the FNE
- may identify the Packet Data Network
- optionally a service to be offered
- We believe that a mobile or FES IP address is
unique within an APN, ask 8.somebody to confirm. - We believe it would be useful for the A-interface
to have a mechinism for specifying to the MRC the
APN of the MDP. - There is currently no standardized way to
negotiate SNDCP parameters (particularly
compression parameters). We believe that 8.05
should clarify the details of SNDCP parameter
negotiation.
26Target Model Cases (That we agree on)
- MRC/MDP share an IP address (or no MDP)
- Most restrictive, easiest to implement in ISSI
- Can there be more than one NSAPI in this case?
Not with the present definition of SNDCP - MRC and gt 0 MDPs in the same address domain, not
subnetted - Multiple NSAPIs
- MRC and gt 0 MDPs, in different address domains
with MDPs sharing a common address domain
27Target modes for further study
- MRC and gt 0 MDPs in the same address domain,
subnetted - Single NSAPI
- EADS/NN believe this is an important case to
reduce number of context activations required - Moto imagines that this might be implemented as
multiple NSAPIs with a single context activation
message - MRC and gt 0 MDPs, all in potentially different
address domains - Least restrictive
- Prefer not to preclude this, and we dont imagine
that we will, but we dont want to require
manufacturers to support this in the MRC.
28We agree that this is a required configuration
Unique Address of one of these things is APN,IP
Address
MES
MDP2
MDP3
MRC
MDP 2 10.12.4.1
MDP 3 10.12.4.2
MRC 10.12.4.1
Access Point Network 2
Access Point Network 3
29And so is this
Unique Address of one of these things is APN,IP
Address
MES
MDP2
MDP3
MRC
MDP 2 10.12.4.1
MDP 3 10.12.4.2
MRC 10.12.4.1
Access Point Network 2
Access Point Network 3
30Mobile to Mobile Data in the same APN
We agree that the green line must be supported,
but that a customer should have the option of the
red line.
CP 1
Ed
Ed
Home 1
Home 2
G
M1
M2
31Things to do before were done
- Outline/Storyboard figures for Architecture
- Functional Decomposition/Assignment of Functions
to Pieces parts - Primitive Model
- Draft mapping of primitives to messages
- By August 12