Title: 2ND THESSALONIANS
12ND THESSALONIANS
- CHAPTER 2
- Verses 1-8
- The Thessalonians were afraid!
- WHY?
2WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR 2nd THESSALONIANS
CHAPTER 2
- 2 Thessalonians 22 That ye be not soon shaken
in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor
by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the
day of Christ is at hand. - Was it because the Thessalonian believers had a
fear that the Day of the Lord had begun?
- Remember the question in the opening slide
subtitle?
3WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?
- QUESTION WHY WERE THE THESSALONIANS AFRAID? Was
it because they thought the Day of the Lord had
begun? If so, WHY SHOULD THAT BOTHER THEM?
- IT WOULD NOT BOTHER ME!
- Im sure the Thessalonians were at least as
strong in their belief as I am, and probably
stronger. So why were they afraid?
4SERIOUSLY!
- If I were to find out that I had to go through
the Day of the Lord, (a time when there will be
great trouble here on earth)
- I would be excited!!!! Because that would mean
that Christs coming was just around the corner!
- I dont think the Thessalonians were any less
committed than I am so why would the possibility
that the The Day of the Lord had begun, scare
them?
5BEFORE WE ANSWER
- that question. I want to remind you all of
something.
- Proverbs 252 It is the glory of God to conceal
a thing but the honour of kings is to search out
a matter.
- God conceals things. BUT
6IT IS THE HONOR OF KINGSTO SEARCH THEM OUT
- Anybody got a king handy? I need some help with
scripture.
- Revelation 1916 And he hath on his vesture and
on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND
LORD OF LORDS.
- Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
If he is King of Kings then.
7WHO ARE THE KINGS
- he is king over? Answer
- Revelation 15-6 And from Jesus Christ, who is
the faithful witness, and the first begotten of
the dead, and the prince of the kings of the
earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from
our sins in his own blood, - And hath made us kings and priests unto God and
his Father to him be glory and dominion for ever
and ever. Amen.
8SO YOU ARE A KING!
- Jesus Christ has made you a king and priest of
God, our Father.
- So God now has millions of kings and priests, and
over these kings, is the King of kings, Jesus.
- Wanna know what else?
9THOUGH GOD HIDES THINGS
- We are fortunate!
- Why? Because
- Amos 37 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing,
but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the
prophets.
10GOD DOES NOTHING
- without revealing it to his servants, the
prophets! Period!
- Therefore, there is nothing hidden that we cannot
find out
- and we, as Gods kings, are empowered to find
out the things God has hidden! So on to
Thessalonians
112ND THESSALONIANS 21,2
- 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of
our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering
together unto him,
- 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be
troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by
letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is
at hand.
122 Thessalonians 23, 4
- 3 Let no man deceive you by any means for that
day shall not come, except there come a falling
away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the
son of perdition -
- 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all
that is called God, or that is worshipped so
that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.
132 Thessalonians 25, 6
- 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you,
I told you these things?
- 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might
be revealed in his time.
142 Thessalonians 27, 8
- 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work
only he who now letteth will let, until he be
taken out of the way.
- 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom
the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his
mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of
his coming
15OKAY, WE BEGIN 2 Thess 21
- Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of
our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering
together unto him,
- Lets see what Paul means when he says beseech,
above.
- First the English dictionary
16MERRIAM WEBSTER
- Beseech
- 1 to beg for urgently or anxiously2 to
request earnestly IMPLORE
- Implore
- 1 to call upon in supplication BESEECH2 to
call or pray for earnestly ENTREAT
17HOW ABOUT THE GREEK?
- The word beseech is translated from the Greek
word erotao
- 2065 erotao er-o-tah'-o
- Meaning 1) to question 2) to ask 2a) to
request, entreat, beg, beseech
- Origin apparently from 2046 cf 2045
- Usage AV - ask 23, beseech 14, pray 14, desire
6, intreat 1 58
I like to check out origins
18Origin apparently from 2046 cf 2045
- 2045 ereunao er-yoo-nah'-o erotao
- Meaning 1) to search, examine into
- Origin apparently from 2046 (through the idea
of enquiry) TDNT - 2655,255 v
- Usage AV - search 6 6
- NOW LETS LOOK AT 2046
19Origin apparently from 2046 cf 2045
- 2046 ereo er-eh'-o
erotao
- Meaning 1) to utter, speak, say
- Origin probably a fuller form of 4483, an
alternate for 2036 in cert. tenses v
- Usage AV - say 57, speak 7, tell 4, speak of 2,
call 1 71
- NOW LETS LOOK AT 4483
20Origin probably a fuller form of 4483
- 4483 re,w rheo hreh'-o
- Meaning 1) to pour forth, to utter
- Origin for certain tenses of which a prolonged
form ereo er-eh'-o, is used, and both as
alternate for 2036, perhaps akin (or ident.) with
4482 (through the idea of pouring forth) v - Usage AV - speak 12, say, speak of 3, command
1, make 1 26
21BESEECH IN FULL BLOOM
- All definitions and nuances.
- ENGLISH to beg urgently, anxiously, to implore,
to call and pray for earnestly.
- GREEK to question, ask, request, entreat, beg,
to search or examine into, to speak, utter, or
say in a pouring forth.
22WE DRILL A LITTLE FURTHER
- 2 Thessalonians 21 Now we beseech you, brethren,
by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by
our gathering together unto him,
- Next, we focus on the word, by.
- Whenever we do something by something, that
something is the standard, the litmus test.
- For example, when we do something by the
numbers, or by the book.
23THE STANDARD
- The subject, the standard, the benchmark, that we
are going to measure everything in the 2nd
chapter of Thessalonians by is
- 2 Thessalonians 21 Now we beseech you, brethren,
by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by
our gathering together unto him,
24AS IS APPROPRIATE
- the subject of chapter two is introduced in the
first verse. That subject is
- 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
- AND
- 2. our gathering together unto him,
25WE WOULD SAY
- Today Im going to talk to you about.
- The subject is introduced before we begin
speaking on the body of that subject.
- God is no different.
26SO THE SUBJECT IS
- 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
- AND
- 2. our gathering together unto him,
27DEFINITELY TWO ITEMS
- 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
- 2. our gathering together unto him,
- Now these two items could be two aspects of the
same event, or two different events separated in
time.
28LET ME EXPLAIN
- and here, I am going to be forced to take a
side road, not because I want to, but because, as
with any important bible truth, such as the
gathering together, or rapture of the church, and
Christs 2nd coming, mischief, obfuscation, and
confusion abound. - First, there are three main views as to the
timing of our gathering together unto him,
i.e., the rapture, and the second coming of
Christ. A fourth view came into prominence during
the 1990s. - I will briefly explain and demonstrate these four
views with some assisting illustrations.
29FIRST, THE MILLENNIUM
- The word millennium, is derived from two Latin
words, milus, which means a thousand, and
annum, meaning year. Literally, a one thousand
year period. - Scholars refer to a period that Revelation
predicts will occur in the future, following
Christs 2nd coming as, the millennium
30REVELATION
- Revelation 201-3
- 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven,
having the key of the bottomless pit and a great
chain in his hand.
- 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old
serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound
him a thousand years,
- 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut
him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should
deceive the nations no more, till the thousand
years should be fulfilled and after that he must
be loosed a little season.
31MORE REVELATION
- Revelation 204 and I saw the souls of them
that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and
for the word of God, and which had not worshipped
the beast, neither his image, neither had
received his mark upon their foreheads, or in
their hands and they lived and reigned with
Christ a thousand years.
32STILL MORE
- Revelation 205-7 5 But the rest of the dead
lived not again until the thousand years were
finished. This is the first resurrection. 6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the
first resurrection on such the second death hath
no power, but they shall be priests of God and of
Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand
years. 7 And when the thousand years are
expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
33SO THERE IS THIS PERIOD
- still future, that is a thousand years in
duration, during which, Satan will be bound not
allowed to roam.
- The first resurrection will have taken place at
the beginning of the thousand years. This is why
scholars place the thousand years after, or
starting right at, the second coming of Christ.
Why again, you may ask?
34BECAUSE, AS WE READ
- The thousand years begins with the first
resurrection, and it is Christ who performs this
first resurrection, so he has to be returned as
these resurrected people are going to live and
reign with him. - Where!
- On earth!
35SO GODS WORD
- places Christs second coming right at, on, or
just before, the beginning of the prophesied one
thousand year period, this period being called
often the millennial reign of Christ. - Graphically it would look like the next slide.
36THE MILLENIUM
Note My own research confirms a seven day week
from Adam to the end of time, therefore I firmly
support the seven one-thousand year days from
Adam until the end of Christs millennial reign
which is then followed by a new heaven and new
earth, beginning an eighth day that has no end
(eternal), or as some rabbis call it, a time of
not counting. This truth of the seven days is
demonstrable by some obvious and some not so
obvious scriptures, however, proving that truth
is outside the scope of this effort. That said,
no harm is done by my illustrations because
whether you support such a doctrine or not, the
historical fact that almost two thousand years --
or, 2 days, depending upon your understanding --
have passed since Christs ascension and
Pentecost until the present is unarguable.
Further, Revelation is clear - as we have seen in
our previous verses - that there is a period up
ahead of us, prophetically speaking, of one
thousand years in length. Therefore, my
illustrations can at least be helpful in
depicting the last two thousand years, and the
coming millennium.
37PRE POST or A choo!
- There are three prominent views of the
millennium the thousand year period that we have
been discussing.
- 1. 1st view is PRE-MILLENIALISM
- 2. 2nd view is POST-MILLENIALISM
- 3. 3rd view is A-MILLENIALISM
Note I will often hyphenate a word, not because
spelling requires it, but because I want to make
a distinction.
381st VIEW PRE-MILLENNIALISM
- The premillenialist view is this essentially
- That the rapture of the church, the judgements of
Revelation, the antichrist, Armageddon, and the
second coming of Christ, must all have already
have occurred, or at least be coincident with the
beginning of the thousand years (the millennium).
And most importantly, that the thousand years
(the millennium) is still future to us. There is
more but Im just giving the basics.
392nd VIEW POST-MILLENNIALISM
- The postmillennialist view is essentially this
- That the thousand years (the millennium) has
already happened that the thousand years began
counting two thousand years ago, and that we are
now living in a period which is
post-pastmillennial.
403rd VIEW A-MILLENNIALISM
- The amillenialist view is this
- That there is no literal thousand year reign of
Christ. That rather, the millennium, and
Revelations references to such a period, are
allegorical, and that the church reigns presently
on earth in proxy for Christ.
41FOR OBVIOUS REASONS
- I hold to the premillenialist position as it
fits scripture when scripture is viewed in a
literal sense and the prophecies are not
allegorized away. History confirms that the
thousand year reign of Christ has not occurred
yet, not to mention that scripture indicates
Satan is bound during this thousand year period.
World conditions indicate that Satan is still
active, not bound.
42SO I/WE ARE PREMILLENNIALIST
- That is, we believe that the thousand-year
millennium is still future to us, and is a
prophecy yet to be fulfilled.
- That said, we must now deal with a period
commonly called, the Great Tribulation, or the
70th week of Daniel chapter nine, a prophetic
seven year period which is still future to us.
43THE GREAT TRIBULATION
- is a time that will be like no other period in
history.
- Matthew 2421-22 21 For then shall be great
tribulation, such as was not since the beginning
of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened,
there should no flesh be saved but for the
elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
44THE GREAT TRIBULATION
- has obviously not occurred yet, but when will
it occur? Since the great tribulation is marked
by, and ends with, judgment and scholars place
the second coming of Christ at the end of this
seven year period, right before, or right at, the
beginning of the one thousand year millennium
then - the Great Tribulation (believed to be seven
years in duration) ends, just as the millennium,
or final thousand years begins at the 2nd coming.
45AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS
467 YEAR TRIBULATION
- Has it happened yet?
- Matthew 2421 For then shall be great
tribulation, such as was not since the beginning
of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall
be. - No!
47SO THE TRIBULATION
- is future
- Therefore we are
- Pre-tribulational a-n-n-n-n-d
- Pre-millennial
- Both the seven-year Great Tribulation and the
thousand-year millennium are future to us.
48NOW, WE NEED TO GOA LITTLE DEEPER
- Because though all pre-millennialists agree that
the thousand year millennium is still future to
us, and that Christ's 2nd coming is still future
to us - They disagree as to the timing of the gathering
together, variously called the catching away,
or rapture. We must have the seven year
tribulation in view as we consider the various
rapture views.
49CONCERNING THE RAPTURE
- There are three prominent views, and a fourth not
so prominent but more recent view (CIRCA 1990),
as to when the rapture will occur.
- Each view has its dogged proponents, faithful
supporters, who will readily point out how wrong
the other views are.
501st A WORD ON THE WORD
- rapture.
- Before we get all exercised about the use of the
word rapture, and its lack of presence in the
bible, I would like to mention a few salient
facts. - Jeromes translation of the Hebrew and Greek
scriptures into Latin, known as the Vulgate,
occurred following an order from Pope Damasus I,
in 382 AD.
51RAPTURE contd.
- Jerome translated the following verse from the
KJV
- 1 Thessalonians 417 Then we which are alive
and remain shall be caught up together with them
in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and
so shall we ever be with the Lord. - Using the Latin word rapiemur, which means a
catching or snatching away. In our verse above,
the English words caught up are translated from
the Greek word harpazo, which means the same
thing, to catch or snatch away.
52JUST A LITTLE MORE ARCANE INFORMATION ON RAPTURE
- Jeromes choice of the Latin rapiemur gives me
no particular heartburn as it does mean, as we
said, to catch or snatch away.
- Furthermore, rapiemur is the indicative passive
future plural form. The present tense, active
form in Latin is rapere, from which the word
rapture is derived. It means to snatch, grab,
or carry off. - (see http//en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rapere).
- Sounds like rapture to me. But you know what,
if you want to call it the rapture, the gathering
together, the great snatch, the catching up, or
even the abduction of the church, Im not going
to get all twisted, as long as you understand the
significance of the event and no one is harmed or
misled by your choice of words. - Okay, enough of this digression within a
digression. Lets get back to understanding the
four views of the tribulation.
53THE FOUR VIEWS
- The four views as to when the rapture occurs, in
relation to the seven-year Great Tribulation
are
- 1. The pre-tribulation rapture
- 2. The mid-tribulation rapture
- 3. The post-tribulation rapture
- 4. The pre-wrath rapture
541st THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE
NOTE Pre-tribulation rapture beliefs vary
somewhat as to whether the rapture happens some
unknown period of time prior to the start of the
seven year tribulation, or whether it happens
right at the start of the seven years and may
even trigger the start of the seven year
tribulation. Point is, all agree that the rapture
precedes the Great Tribulation and these folks
would therefore be pre-tribulational in their
view.
55A WORD ABOUT IMMINENCY
- I was always told that the reason that I could
never be successful in discovering the timing for
the rapture of the church was because of
something called the doctrine of immanency. - The doctrine known as immanency essentially
rests on the belief that Christ could have
returned at any time in church history from the
next day after Pentecost up to, and including,
our present moment.
56THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE with a twist
The doctrine of immanency represents that the
rapture could have occurred any time from
Pentecost until the present, and anytime in the
future, prior to the Great Tribulation.
57MORE ON IMMINENCY
- I found, in my research, that the doctrine of
immanency is a contrivance. It exists no where in
scripture clearly stated but rather, is assembled
through inference. - There is no such word in the bible, nor words to
that effect.
- In the interest of not taking our current
subject, the Thessalonians fear, to far afield, I
am not going to deal with immanency here. Suffice
to say that careful examination will demonstrate
the fallacy of the doctrine of immanency. Nuff
said. - (If you have questions on immanency ask me)
58NOW THE MID-TRIBULATION RAPTURE
- We have covered the 1st position,
pre-tribulation, now here is the 2nd.
Mid-tribulation rapture. This view has the
rapture occurring half way through the seven
years.
59THE POST-TRIBULATION RAPTURE
- The 3rd view, post-tribulationalism, has the
rapture occurring simultaneously with the 2nd
coming. And following the seven years when they
end.
60THE REDHEADED STEPCHILD
- 4th view, the pre-wrath rapture why?
- Revelation 151 And I saw another sign in
heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having
the seven last plagues for in them is filled up
the wrath of God. - Revelation 161 And I heard a great voice out of
the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your
ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God
upon the earth.
61SO WHY PRE-WRATH?
- Romans 59 Much more then, being now justified
by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath
through him.
- 1 Thessalonians 110 And to wait for his Son
from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even
Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to
come. - 1 Thessalonians 59 For God hath not appointed
us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord
Jesus Christ,
62SO WHEN IS THE PRE-WRATH RAPTURE?
The pre-wrath position is a view that sees the
church being raptured at a time that precedes the
2nd coming of Christ by some months. That period
of a few months is the period where Gods wrath
via the bowls and vials are poured out upon the
earth. The pre-wrath view envisions that the
wrath to come that we have been saved from is
Gods wrath, and Gods wrath is not poured out
until the final months of the seven year
tribulation. Any wrath prior to that is Satans
wrath. A side note The seven year period commonl
y called Daniels 70th week and the Great
Tribulation needs a slight correction in our
understanding. While Daniels 70th week is in
fact seven years in length, the Great Tribulation
itself is the final, or last, three and one half
years of that seven year period. See next slide.
63THE GREAT TRIBULATION IS NOT SEVEN YEARS
Briefly, it goes like this Dan 927 has the
Abomination of Desolation taking place in the
midst of the final 70th week, i.e., the final
seven years still future to us. The Abomination
of Desolation is described by Paul in 2 Thess.
24 as being the man of sin sitting in the
temple. Jesus said in Matthew 2415 that the
Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Daniel,
standing in the temple, would be the trigger
event which starts the The Great Tribulation,
as it is called, for Jesus says when this
abomination happens, he says in verse 21 For
then shall be great tribulation. So simply put,
THE tribulation does not begin until the man of
sin enters the temple and proclaims himself God,
and that does not happen Daniel says until the
middle of the final seven years, therefore, only
the final three and one half years comprise the
Great Tribulation, not the whole seven.
The Great Tribulation
64THATS THE BASICS OF THE VARIOUS RAPTURE BELIEFS
- Now that you have somewhat of a mind picture of
the possible scenarios for the rapture, lets get
back to 2 Thessalonians 2 1-8, and Pauls reason
for writing this section. - The next slide is a repeat of an earlier slide so
that we may get back on track with our intended
subject.
65DEFINITELY TWO ITEMS
- 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
- 2. our gathering together unto him,
- 2 Thessalonians 21 Now we beseech you, brethren,
by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by
our gathering together unto him, the second by
is implied
66First question is
- are these two phrases two aspects of one event?
Or, are they two distinct events? The answer lies
in performing our due diligence in the scriptures
with respect to research. The kind of thing that
kings do. - The answer is set in concrete, but more on that
in a moment. For now, lets look at our next
verse.
67Paul beseeches by Christs coming and the rapture
- that they quit getting all shook up.
- 2 Thessalonians 22 That ye be not soon shaken
in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor
by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the
day of Christ is at hand.
68MOST SCHOLARS AGREE
- that the NASB has the best and most accurate
translation for this verse as it reads
- NASB 2 Thessalonians 22 that you may not be
quickly shaken from your composure or be
disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a
letter as if from us, to the effect that the day
of the Lord has come. - The Thessalonians thought the day of the lord was
currently going on, NOT that it was just about to
start. They thought they were in it!
69BACK TO THE KJV
- 2 Thessalonians 22 That ye be not soon shaken
in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor
by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the
day of Christ is at hand DAY OF THE LORD HAS
COME. - Whenever there is error in my thinking I find
these two conditions in varying degrees shaken
in mind and troubled.
70SHAKEN IN MIND
- 4531 saleu,w saleuo sal-yoo'-o
- Meaning 1) a motion produced by winds, storms,
waves, etc 1a) to agitate or shake 1b) to cause
to totter 1c) to shake thoroughly, of a measure
filled by shaking its contents together 2) to
shake down, overthrow 2a) to cast down from one's
(secure and happy) state 2b) to move, agitate the
mind, to disturb one - To be shaken in mind is a momentary state.
71TROUBLED
- 2360 throeo thro-eh'-o
- Meaning 1) to cry aloud, make a noise by outcry
1a) in the NT, to trouble, frighten 1b) to be
troubled in mind, to be frightened, alarmed
- Origin from threomai to wail v
- To be troubled in mind is more ongoing. The
initial shock of an event may be over, but we
have a continuing affect when we are troubled.
72PAUL LOVINGLY BESEECHES
- the Thessalonians to not be shaken or troubled,
no matter the source of information, be it
spirit, word as in prophecy, or letter, that
the Day of the Lord had begun. - What is Paul going to use to get rid of their
shaken, troubled, minds? The truth! Error in
our thinking results in doubt, and doubt leads to
worry and fear, and fear results in our inability
to be at peace. Instead, we may find ourselves in
the conditions the Thessalonians experienced
being shaken and troubled.
73WHAT IS THE ANSWER TO ERROR -- RIGHT DOCTRINE!
- So Paul set about correcting their doctrine,
which subsequently corrects their thinking.
- 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
any means for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of
sin be revealed, the son of perdition
74PAUL STRESSES
- 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
any means
- What were the means that had been used to deceive
them? One, or some, combination of the
following.
- 2 Thessalonians 22 That ye be not soon shaken
in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor
by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the
day of Christ is at hand.
75NOW! THE MEAT OF THE MATTER
- 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
any means for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of
sin be revealed, the son of perdition - Please notice the words that day shall not
come
76HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT STATEMENT?
- that day shall not come
- That statement is HUGE, for it goes directly to
the Thessalonians problem! They were deceived
into thinking the Day of the Lord HAD come!
- No other statement is this section goes right to
the problem like, that day shall not come.
- Again, its HUGE! But wait! There is a problem!
77PAULS HUGE STATEMENT
- the singular phrase that directly refutes the
Thessalonians error isgulp!
- IN ITALICS! ITS ITALICIZED! KJV of course
- that day shall not come
- Italicized words are added by the translators!
78ITALICIZED WORDS ARE
- NOT part of the God-breathed word but are ADDED
by the translators. Supplied, if, in their
opinion, the words are needed to make sense in
English. - Am I to believe that the most direct refutation
of the Thessalonians' error -- concerning what
they believed to be the now occurring, Day of
the Lord, -- was not even made by God, but was a
translational addition as demonstrated by the
italicized words, that day shall not come?
79HMMM LETS SEE
- The words, that day shall not come, are not in
any Greek MS. They have definitely been added by
the translators.
- I looked at 25 different Bible translations. Of
those 25, 21 of them all had the words that day
shall not come, or words to that effect, added
to verse 3. Four did not.
80LETS REMOVE THEITALICIZED WORDS
- First with the italicized words
- KJV 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you
by any means for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of
sin be revealed, the son of perdition - Then without
- KJV 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you
by any means for except there come a falling
away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the
son of perdition
81DO YOU SEE IT? THERES SOMETHING MISSING!
- 2 Thessalonians 23-6 3 Let no man deceive you
by any means for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of
sin be revealed, the son of perdition 4 Who
opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is
called God, or that is worshipped so that he as
God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself
that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I
was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And
now ye know what withholdeth that he might be
revealed in his time. - Im not referring to the fact that the words are
literally missing because I removed them, but
rather, something is missing in the sense of the
verses without those italicized words. Reread the
above if you need to.
82LETS LOOK AT THE FOUR BIBLES THAT OMIT THE WORDS
- The Basic Bible in English
- BBE 2 Thessalonians 23 Give no belief to false
words because there will first be a falling away
from the faith, and the revelation of the man of
sin, the son of destruction, first before what?
This translation needs to end this verse with
before the day of the Lord come. - Notice the bold words. They changed the grammer
in order to make it work without the italicized
words. They changed those bold words from the
KJV, et al, where it says, except there come a
falling away first - KJV.
83THE DOUAY-RHEIMSAMERICAN EDITION
- DRA 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
any means for unless there come a revolt first,
and the man of sin be revealed, the son of
perdition - Notice how you are left hanging at the end of the
verse. You sense something is missing but you do
not know what.
84Now the NAB
- NAB 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no one deceive you in
any way. For unless the apostasy comes first and
the lawless one is revealed, the one doomed to
perdition, - Again, we are left dangling as if we are being
set up to be told something but the something
is never revealed.
85NOW THE FOURTH YOUNGS LITERAL TRANSLATION
- YLT 2 Thessalonians 23 let not any one deceive
you in any manner, because -- if the falling away
may not come first, and the man of sin be
revealed -- the son of the destruction, - And here, for a fourth time, we are left hanging,
waiting for something we cannot exactly identify.
86BUT THE YLT IS CLEVER
- They, at least recognize they have missed
something in the sense of their translation.
- So what do they do? They fix it by adding some
italicized words two verses down! They add these
words the day doth not come.
- But where do they add them? Next verse!
87LETS LOOK
- YLT 2 Thessalonians 23-4 3 let not any one
deceive you in any manner, because -- if the
falling away may not come first, and the man of
sin be revealed -- the son of the destruction, 4
who is opposing and is raising himself up above
all called God or worshipped, so that he in the
sanctuary of God as God hath sat down, shewing
himself off that he is God -- the day doth not
come.
88AND HOW DID THE KJV PUT IT
- 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
any means for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of
sin be revealed, the son of perdition - So lets tally up. We have 21 translations that
add the words that day shall not come, or words
to that affect.
89THEN WE HAVE A TRANSLATION
- The BBE Basic Bible in English which does not
include the italicized words but DOES change both
the tense and voice to cover for not adding the
italicized words which is ineffective. - In other words, they changed the word of God so
they would not have to add the italicized words
IMHO.
90THEN WE HAVE TWO
- translations, the DRA and the NAB, neither of
which make grammatical changes to hide the
missing sense, nor do they add the italicized
words, but rather, they simply leave us wondering
what is missing. - Then there is the YLT, which adds the italicized
words in the next verse.
91SO WHATS THE SCORE
- Twentyone translations who include in verse 3 the
words, that day shall not come.
- One, the BBE, that changes the grammar so you
dont sense something is missing.
- Two translations, the DRA and NAB, who do not
supply the italicized words but are honest enough
to leave you with a sense that something is
missing. - And lastly, the YLT, which ends up adding the
words at the end of the next verse.
92THE EVIDENCE IS
- overwhelming. The words, that day shall not
come should be added, and are properly supplied
by the translators.
- Well now wait a minute! If they BELONG THERE, but
were not PUT THERE, originally, by God, then that
means that they were INTENTIONALLY left out by
God! WHY? Why would he do that?
93ELLIPSIS
- A legitimate figure of speech.
- E.W. Bullinger, in his work, Figures of Speech
used in the Bible, says specifically that the
words, that day shall not come, in verse 3, are
a particular kind of the figure, Ellipsis,
whereby a whole clause is intentionally omitted.
94GOD, IN OMITTING
- the words, that day shall not come,
intentionally makes them a figure of speech and
what is the purpose of a figure of speech?
- TO GRAB OUR ATTENTION!
- IT IS GODS WAY OF SAYING, HEY!
95HEY!! HEY!! HEY!!
- PAY ATTENTION!!!
- THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME!
- THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME!
- THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME!
96WHAT WERE THE THESSALONIANS AFRAID OF?
- They were afraid that
- THAT DAY HAD COME!
- So God attacks their error with
- THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME
97EXCEPT
- That day shall not come EXCEPT!
- 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
any means for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of
sin be revealed, the son of perdition
98SO NOW WE SEE
- Before the Day of the Lord begins, some things
have to occur first. In fact, just by way of
information, a bunch of things have to happen
first, before the Day of the Lord can arrive.
For example - Joel 230-31 30 And I will shew wonders in the
heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and
pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned
into darkness, and the moon into blood, before
the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
99ANYTHING ELSE - YEAH
- Malachi 45-6 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah
the prophet before the coming of the great and
dreadful day of the LORD 6 And he shall turn
the heart of the fathers to the children, and the
heart of the children to their fathers, lest I
come and smite the earth with a curse. - Yup! Elijah is coming before the DAY OF THE LORD.
100ANYTHING ELSE WELL YEAH
- Isaiah 139-13 9 Behold, the day of the LORD
cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger,
to lay the land desolate and he shall destroy
the sinners thereof out of it. 10 For the stars
of heaven and the constellations thereof shall
not give their light the sun shall be darkened
in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause
her light to shine. 11 And I will punish the
world for their evil, and the wicked for their
iniquity and I will cause the arrogancy of the
proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness
of the terrible. 12 I will make a man more
precious than fine gold even a man than the
golden wedge of Ophir. 13 Therefore I will shake
the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of
her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and
in the day of his fierce anger. THE DAY OF THE
LORD
101ANY MORE YEAH, SOME
- Revelation 612-17 12 And I beheld when he had
opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great
earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth
of hair, and the moon became as blood 13 And
the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as
a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is
shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven
departed as a scroll when it is rolled together
and every mountain and island were moved out of
their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and
the great men, and the rich men, and the chief
captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman,
and every free man, hid themselves in the dens
and in the rocks of the mountains 16 And said
to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide
us from the face of him that sitteth on the
throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb 17 For
the great day of his wrath is come and who shall
be able to stand?
102THE BEGINNING OF THE
- day of the Lord will be marked by tremendous
signs in the heavens and on the earth, so the
arrival of the day of the Lord will be evident
no guessing needed. - And lets remember in the verses we just read
that we learned that the day of the Lord is
also the day of His wrath.
103AND YOU MAY RECALL
- Romans 59 Much more then, being now justified
by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath
through him.
- 1 Thessalonians 110 And to wait for his Son
from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even
Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to
come. - 1 Thessalonians 59 For God hath not appointed
us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord
Jesus Christ,
104SO AT THE VERY LEAST WE CAN SEE A PRE-WRATH
RAPTURE
105BUT WAIT!
- We are also supposed to see something else before
the day of the Lord.
- 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
any means for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of
sin be revealed, the son of perdition
106PAUL SAYS THAT
- before the day of the Lord, two things must
happen in succession. What are the two things?
- 1. a falling away first
- and
- 2. that man of sin be revealed
107WHICH HAPPENS FIRST?
- The falling away, or the revealing of the man
of sin?
- No question about it! The falling away happens
first.
- How do I know that? Im glad you asked.
1082 THESSALONIANS 23 SAYS
- except there come a falling away first
- That word first is the Greek word, proton,
and it means
- 4412 proton pro'-ton
- Meaning 1) first in time or place 1a) in any
succession of things or persons 2) first in rank
2a) influence, honour 2b) chief 2c) principal 3)
first, at the first
109THESE TWO EVENTS
- the falling away, and the revealing of the
man of sin may be separated by some period of
time or they may occur the one right after the
other, but one thing is certain, the falling
away happens first in the sequence. - Now that brings us to a very controversial issue,
namely, what exactly is the falling away?
110APOSTASIA
- The three English words, a falling away, are
translated from the one Greek word, apostasia
in 2nd Thessalonians 23.
- Finding out exactly what God meant to convey when
he used this word is crucial to the whole reason
for writing 2nd Thessalonians 2, 1-8, and, as we
might expect, anything that is crucial to our
understanding something will find a great deal of
devilish mischief surrounding it.
111BUT LETS WADE IN
- There are three views expounded with regard to
the meaning of apostasia, as it is used in 2nd
Thessalonians 23, and lets remember that it is
translated, a falling away. The views are as
follows in no particular order. - 1. That before the man of sin is revealed there
will be a falling away of Christians.
112THE SECOND VIEW IS
- 2. That the falling away is that which occurs as
a result of a future rebellion by Lucifer which
then issues in the unveiling of his son of
perdition, the antichrist. - 3. The third view is that a falling away is a
poor rendering of apostasia, and that the word
would be better rendered departure, meaning
that some sort of departure must occur before
the son of perdition is revealed.
113MY VIEW PRIOR TO THIS STUDY
- has been that apostasia should be translated,
the departure.
- However, for the purposes of this study I set
aside my view and let the evidence speak.
- I have no personal preference and desire to
simply ascertain what God said.
114I WILL PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE
- and you decide for yourselves.
- Before we examine the evidence I want to warn you
of one thing. The belief, of various theologians,
as to the correct translation of apostasia, is
often clouded by the orthodoxy of various
parties, and their predisposition, or opposition,
to a pre-tribulation rapture, or any rapture that
is separate from the 2nd coming of Christ.
115NOT TO WORRY THOUGH
- God has so written His word that if we will
search for the hidden gems, that we as kings are
entitled to do, and are equipped to do, then we
will discover the wonderful ways in which God has
written his word so as to negate His
interpretation from being prejudiced by a
particular denomination, theological school, or
translators orthodoxy.
116A CAVEAT ON DEFINITONS
- The usage of a word may be distinct and unrelated
to the actual definition of a word. For example,
we all know what the word bad means, however,
there is a usage in our culture where bad means
good, e.g., That chick is bad!. - Generally speaking, a word is not defined by its
usage, but by its definition. The meaning of a
word may change over time by virtue of the way in
which a culture uses the word, but its
definition, generally speaking, will not change.
Please remember this.
117APOSTASIA A FALLING AWAY
- The argument for translating apostasia as a
falling away, seems to have solid scholarship
behind it.
- Of those who believe that this falling away is
people, and not some special demonic event, there
is debate over whether believers in the church
are pictured as falling away from their belief
in God, or whether a general falling away of
the whole worlds population is in view.
118THE CHURCH, THE WORLD, OR LUCIFERIC, WHICH IS IT?
- No matter who you believe the falling away speaks
of above, one thing is clear.
- This event is not just a falling away, but it
is the falling away, for the Greek supplies the
definite article the, which is interesting
because - In Greek grammar the article is assumed anyway.
So by God supplying the definite article God is
making a clear statement.
119It is THE Apostasia
- God makes it clear that this is a singular,
one-time event. Not all translations translate
the Greek article the that God intentionally
placed to show the emphasis on this being a
singular event. - That is unfortunate, and it is poor translation.
Whether it is the falling away or the
departure, the the belongs there.
120HOW THE APOSTASIA IS TRANSLATED IN 34 VERSIONS
- ASV, NKJ, YLT the falling away BBE, K21,
KJG, KJV, PNT, RWB WEB Webster Bible a
falling away AMP, CSB, DBY, MSG, NAB, NAS,
NAU, WEY the apostasy DRA a revolt
ESV, NET, NIB, NIV, NRS, RSV the rebellion
MRD a defection NJB the Great Revolt
NLT a great rebellion CEV people will
rebel GNT the final rebellion NCV the
turning away NLV people turn away GNV,
TNT, - a departing WEB World English Bible
the departure.
121THE LEXICON ON APOSTASIA
- My bible software allows me to hold my mouse
cursor over a word or group of words and see the
Strongs Concordance Lexical definition of the
word. The results.
122A GENEVA BIBLE NOTE
- Notes Geneva Bible Notes
- (1) The apostle foretells that before the coming
of the Lord, there will be a throne set up
completely contrary to Christ's glory, in which
that wicked man will sit, and transfer all things
that appertain to God to himself and many will
fall away from God to him.
123THIS GENEVA BIBLE NOTE
- is very revealing. Why? Lets look at the
pertinent parts one more time.
- (1) The apostle foretells that before the coming
of the Lord, (1) there will be a throne set up
completely contrary to Christ's glory, in which
that wicked man will sit, and (2) transfer all
things that appertain to God to himself and many
will fall away from God to him.
124PUT SIMPLER
- 1. He sits on his throne in Jerusalem, in the
rebuilt temple
- 2. He receives worship intended for God and
causes many to fall away from God and worship
him.
- ANYBODY SEE A PROBLEM HERE!
125SEQUENCE, SEQUENCE
- 1. Sits on throne
- 2. Causes many to fall away
- 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
any means for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of
sin be revealed, the son of perdition
126THE APOSTASIA HAPPENS FIRST, THEN HE SITS
- 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by any
means 1 for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of
sin be revealed, the son of perdition - 2 Thessalonians 24 Who opposeth and exalteth
himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshipped so that he as God sitteth in the
temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
127WHATEVER THE APOSTASIA IS
- it is FIRST, before the revealing of the man of
sin, who is revealed when he sits in Gods
temple, claiming Gods worship.
- Remember an earlier slide on the word first in
the phrase, except there come a falling away
first?
- The word first is proton, the first in a
succession!
128THAT MISTAKE MAKES ME A LITTLE SUSPICIOUS
- but never mind, lets continue to examine the
case for apostasia being translated falling
away.
- You probably do not remember the fact that the
Strongs definition for apostasia mentioned
that apostasia appears one other time in the
New Testament in Acts 2121 where it is
translated, forsake.
129ACTS 2121
- Acts 2121 And they are informed of thee, that
thou teachest all the Jews which are among the
Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought
not to circumcise their children, neither to walk
after the customs. - The word above, forsake, is translated from the
Greek word, apostasia. The same word translated
a falling away in 2nd Thessalonians 23
130THE CASE FOR A FALLING AWAY IS LOOKING STRONG
- In all cases, any argument made by scholars,
teachers, and believers, for translating
apostasia as a falling away, or a
rebellion, or, apostasy, all reference the
only other use of apostasia in Acts 2121 where
it is used to describe forsaking Moses,
indicating a religious falling away from
Moses. - They also use the definitions provided in the
Lexicons as well as verses in the LXX.
131THE LXX THE SEPTUAGINT
- The Septuagint is a Greek translation of the
Hebrew Old Testament produced around 282 BC.
Hebrew scholars who also knew Greek were invited
to Alexandria Egypt to produce the LXX. - The LXX has a few references (a half dozen or so)
where Hebrew bible verses speak of rebellion
against God or religion, and in these verses, the
Greek word, apostasia is used.
132A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES
- LXE Joshua 2222 God even God is the Lord, and
God even God himself knows, and Israel he shall
know if we have transgressed before the Lord by
apostasy, let him not deliver us this day. - LXE 2 Chronicles 2919 and all the vessels which
king Achaz polluted in his reign, in his
apostasy, we have prepared and purified behold,
they are before the altar of the Lord.
133SO OUT OF 35 BIBLES
- why would even three bibles choose to translate
apostasia as depart, or departure? The
evidence for a falling away, or, apostasy, or
a rebellion, seems overwhelming! - The answer to that question is very interesting,
and vital to your life. Yes, vital!
134WHAT DO WE HAVE?
- 1. We have the LXX Greek bible using apostasia
to translate Hebrew words meaning rebellion
against God.
- 2. We have the only other verse in the New
Testament which we can look at using the prior
usage rule, Acts 2121, where apostasia is
translated as forsake, as in a religious
forsaking of Moses. - 3. We have the Strongs definition of apostasia
as a falling away, defection, apostasy.
135EVERYONE BUILDS THEIR CASE ON THOSE THREE THINGS,
- which are not unsound! So what made me
question?
- After all, I have settled on the meaning of other
words with far less research. I would simply look
at Strongs and move on.
- But! In those various cases, I was not detecting
the putrid aroma of gasp
136A CONSPIRACY!
- What exactly was bothering me? Was it that I had
some personal predilection causing me to want to
see a falling away translated as the the
departure. NO! - First, that would not be honest, and I have not
approached the word of God dishonestly in many
years.
- Was it my desire to see a rapture verse that
showed us leaving before most of the bad stuff?
137NO! TO ALL OF THESE!THEN WHAT?
- It was a nnggghhh! A what? A nnggghhh!
- What the hell is a nnggghhh? Im glad you
asked - A nnggghhh is a thing I get in my spirit when
something stinks but I have no idea why. When
that happens, I just pray, continue to read, and
do my due diligence.
138Then I beganto notice things
- Things like the Geneva Bible note we read that
had the sequence of events backwards, that is,
they had the AntiChrist being revealed as God,
and then the falling away. Nothing conclusive
in itself, but enough for me to say, why were
they backwards. - Then there is the subject. Yes, the subject.
139REMEMBER THE SLIDE WHERE WE SAW THAT THE SUBJECT
- was 2 Thessalonians 21
- Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of
our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering
together unto him,
- 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
- 2. our gathering together unto him,
140THE SUBJECT, THE STANDARD BY WHICH TRUTH and
ERROR
- must be measured. Everything in this section of
2nd Thessalonians must comport with the announced
subject of and be measured by
- 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
- 2. our gathering together unto him,rapture
141DID I FIND THAT TO BE THE CASE? NO! HOW SO!
- Im glad you asked! Remember, we measure by
- 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
- 2. our gathering together unto him,
- However, when I read verse 3 and following, it
raised a flag for me. Why?
- First of all, notice in verse 1 that the order of
the phrases are reversed. Jesus does not come,
and then we are gathered! We are gathered to him,
and then we come back with him at his 2nd coming!
142THE REVERSAL OF THIS ORDER GRABBED MY ATTENTION
- You see, the Day of the Lord is synonymous in
scripture with the 2nd coming of Christ. If you
are talking about the 2nd coming you are talking
about the Day of the Lord. If you are talking
about the day of the Lord you are talking about
the 2nd coming. - I saw the reversal in the subject
143AND THEN I SAW THE REVERSAL AGAIN IN VERSE 3
- 2 Thessalonians 23 for that day shall not
come, except there come a falling away first,
- For that day shall not come! What day? The Day
of the Lord, that is, Christs coming!
- The Day of the Lord/Christs coming is placed in
sequence in the verse before the apostasia, or
a falling away. The order they are mentioned is
in reverse order from their actual occurrence.
144SO NOW I SEE A PATTERN
- In 2nd Thessalonians 21, the subject
- 1. the 2nd coming of Christ,
- 2. our gathering together rapture,
- And in 2nd Thessalonians 23
- 1. that day the 2nd coming shall not come,
- 2. our gathering together, WHAT!!
145ARE YOU NUTS?
- I do not see what you see! Ill grant you that
the italicized phrase in verse 3, that day shall
not come, is a reference to the Day of the Lord,
the day of Christs 2nd coming but BUT BUT! - I see no words after that, or even in the next
words, except there come a falling away first
that remotely relate to our gathering together,
instead we have, a falling away.
146EXACTLY! EXACTLY!
- We have a subject introduced in verse (1) which
is Christs coming Day of the Lord and then
our gathering rapture. Its even introduced
in REVERSE order with respect to sequence. - Then, in verse (3) we the same reverse order,
Christs coming Day of the Lord and then our
gathering rapture? NO! Thats not what we
see! We see, instead, Christs coming Day of
the Lord and then what? A falling away?
147LETS SEE, OKAY, APPLE/APPLE, then APPLE/BANANA?
- Day of the Lord APPLE then gathering
together/rapture APPLE in 2nd Thess 21, but in
2nd Thess 23 we see
- Day of the Lord APPLE then falling away
BANANA? 2 Thess 23
- Im expecting everything Paul introduces to
comport with Gods benchmark, the subject
introduced in verse (1).
- A falling away was NOT introduced in 2nd Thess
21 as the subject. So why is it there in verse
23?
148MORE SUSPICIOUS NOW
- but do not have nearly enough authority to
overturn the great body of evidence supporting a
falling away as a translation. But I am getting
more suspicious. Why? - Because I have done too much research into Gods
word, and seen the incredible harmony and
symmetry in the structure of His word to be
comfortable with apostasia as a falling away.
149WE GO DEEPER
- The word apostasia itself is a compound of two
Greek words, apo, meaning from and istemi,
meaning stand. So in its literal sense, it is
a standing away from, and would be defined as
away from, or departure. - So where does a falling away come from? Good
question. Lets look at the Lexicons
150BDAG Lexicon
Sounds like a falling away to me
151THAYERS LEXICON
NOTICE THIS COMMENT! AHA! THE FIRST RAY OF LIGHT!
152LIDDELL-SCOTT LEXICON
- Notice the words late form of and the slight
difference in the words. Also notice this Lexicon
provides the definition of defection. A much
more general term and more accurate, I would say.
See it! This is a late form of this! So lets
look at the earlier form.
153LIDDELL-SCOTT LEXICON
- The earlier, original form.
LITERAL DEFINITION
FIGURATIVE USAGE by Thucicides
LITERAL USAGE by Euripides
LITERAL USAGE by Plato