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Title: 11.4.08 Lost in the Funhouse day2


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11.4.08 Lost in the Funhouse day2
  • Schedule
  • Attendance Questions?
  • Common areas for improvement
  • Lost in the Funhouse Discussion.
  • HW Read Jackson. Link will be up after class.
  • Goals
  • Identify and evaluate the role of the reader in
    the realization of a story.
  • Identify areas for improvement in their writing.

2
Paper comments.
  • You may have noticed I write a lot.
  • You may also have noticed that my comments can be
    pretty blunt.
  • The reason for this is that I take what you write
    seriously. I read it as you telling me what you
    really think, as an actualization of your
    reading, thinking, arguing, as you trying to tell
    me something and add to academic discussions.
    So, I get into it and if I dont buy what youre
    selling Ill tell you.
  • Please dont interpret my tone as anything other
    than enthusiasm. I get really excited seeing you
    all think through these things.
  • If you have any questions about the comments you
    received, please do make an appointment to talk
    with me. I would love to walk through them with
    you.

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Common Areas for Improvement
  • MLA
  • Page numbers
  • Heading
  • Works Cited
  • Stuff (Ryan 78).
  • Blockquote.
  • Proof reading.
  • Loose Lose
  • Book titles are underlined or in italics.
  • Second person pronouns and the reader
  • Remember that they refer to the person looking at
    your paper. So, when you say they do something,
    they better agree with you!
  • Defining terms / criteria
  • If you introduce a term, you need to define it.
  • If you are evaluating something, you have to give
    us criteria that we will agree to

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The first person.
  • We talked about how it is hard to presume how
    others read and I suggested this is one reason
    why we focus on what happens in the text rather
    than in the mind of the reader.
  • Several students reacted to the problem of other
    minds by writing their essay in first person as
    an account of their reading experience.
  • While not in itself problematic, the way most
    folks used their personal experience prevented
    them from generalizing their reading in
    productive ways, shutting down discussion.

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  • The argument from most folks boiled down to, I
    was not immersed and these are the elements that
    ruined it for me.
  • The challenge of writing this way is that you
    have to move from your personal experience to
    something that matters to your audience.
  • In this case, that probably meant making a case
    for how your experience reveals something about
    immersion as such.
  • It was this move that folks werent making, which
    meant that what was at stake in your essays was
    YOUR PERSONAL immersion. In other words, you were
    assuming your audience cares whether or not you
    felt immersed. Unfortunately, it really doesnt
    in a professional context.
  • In the end, it is important to be able to
    distinguish your particular taste from what a
    text is trying to do. For example, I dont
    particularly like ICB, or Ryan for that matter,
    but I find what it is doing useful for some of
    the ideas Im trying to work out.

6
The I cant read argument.
  • You would be surprised how often my students have
    thought this was a strong point to make.
  • This argument claims that something is the case
    because the writer found it difficult to read the
    text with ease.
  • In this case, it took the form I found such and
    such confusing so it cant be immersive
  • Aside from the obvious problem that this argument
    undermines ones own authority on a text, it also
    has problems with regard to audience.
  • Remember the audience of folks you are writing
    for. This class, yes, but this class takes place
    in a national university in a nationally
    recognized English department. In short, you are
    writing to a group of aspiring professional
    readers.

7
Biggest problem leaving out the HOW
  • Here is an example of the logic many papers used
  • Immersion is space-travel. sidenote many papers
    had definitions of immersion that had nothing to
    do with what they were trying to show happening
  • What does space-travel mean?
  • We get immersed when we feel emotion for
    characters.
  • How is feeling emotion space-travel? How is it
    immersive?
  • Perry is described in the text, with a history of
    his bad life.
  • How does the description produce a readers
    emotion? How is it immersive? this was the big
    one
  • Because it describes his life as bad, the reader
    is immersed.
  • How do you know that the quote you gave immersed
    me?

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5-Paragraph essay
  • Is really good for identifying something that
    appears in a text and showing multiple examples
    to prove it is there. You all are great at
    identifying qualities in texts.
  • The next step, what will get you to college-level
    writing, will be to go beyond identification of
    what is there to analysis and theorization.
  • It is not enough to say a text has x,y,z and is
    therefore immersive, but you have to explain HOW
    x,y,z produce immersion and what that immersion
    is.

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  • Barth's story contains three distinct voices.
    these include the author's narration of the
    events in the story, the author's self critique,
    and the authors presentation of possible
    critique from the reader.    Lets ride the
    old flying horses! Magda cried. Ill never be an
    author. Its been forever already, everybodys
    gone home, Ocean Citys deserted, the ghost-crabs
    are tickling across the beach and down the
    littered cold streets. (Barth, 7)    So far
    theres been no real dialogue, very little
    sensory detail, and nothing in the way of a
    theme. And a long time has gone by already
    without anything happening it makes a person
    wonder. We havent even reached Ocean City yet
    we will never get out of the funhouse. (Barth,
    3)The last of these acts as a substitution of
    the authors thoughts for the readers. the
    author appears to be telling the reader what to
    think. Why does the author include this type of
    voice? How does this affect the reader's role in
    relation to the text? Does the author destroy the
    interactive experience by forcing his thoughts
    upon the reader? Or does this promote interaction
    in a different way?
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