Title: Size of breeding population
1Size of breeding population
- Dag Lindgren and Darius Danusevicius
- DaDa
- March 2004
For some reason all slides are not visible from
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2Start with two other matters
- The Swedish long-term breeding is still rather
open as most of it has not really started yet,
thus easy to reconsider. - A number of possible limitations on breeding
cycler has to be mentioned and discussed
3Swedish long-term breeding - Intentions
- 20 subpopulations with BP50 (Gpop and Tpop)
for spruce and pine - Norway spruce
- Karlsson Rosvall (1993) suggest 4014 ramets
per parent in a 20 year cycle - Scots pine
- Wilhelmsson Andersson (1993) made a suggestion,
which depends on the success of progeny-testing
F1 uncertain cycling time
4Swedish spruce breeding status 2002 per
subpopulation
5Standard pine strategy
Picture stolen from Bengt Andersson
2001http//www.metla.fi/tapahtumat/2001/nordicgen
etics/Bengt_Andersson.ppt
6Swedish Scots pine breeding status 2002 per
subpopulation
7Scots pine - addition
- Tpop 11 has run a whole cycle to F2, seems
phenotypic in DaDa language. - Tpop 17 OP seeds have been collected from 20
year old F1 8 progeny tests with 25000 plants.
If cycle length is 25 and BP50, 25000/(5025)20
, so if that was typical annual cost for pine
would be gt20 trees per BP parent and year, seems
phen/prog in DaDa language - I could find only a single case (Tpop17) of major
progeny-testing F1 initiated. Things take time.
8That long-term breeding takes much time is no
surprise. Thanks to the current good
documentation (Annual status rapports are
available), we will better grasp the time-line
and avoid delays. Long-term breeding has not
proceeded far for most Swedish populations, thus
the methods of long term breeding are not
well-established or based on much experience, but
open for discussion. It has been thought that
methods to force early flowering to get
progeny-test initiated really early on pine
should become important. This has not yet been
done for a single Tpop. Our calculations indicate
that this line of breeding is less efficient than
progeny-testing of field-tested F1 genotypes.
9Alternative pine strategy (cheap)
Top grafting
Polycross
Top grafts (520)
Planting
Planting
Progeny test 20540 PC 30520 OP 7000
Next Cycle BP DPM
DPM
Select 5 best in 20 best fam.s
Select 5 in worse 30 fam.s
Grafting
Graft archive (530)
pollen
Field test 5000 F1 (50100)
30
0
2
12
18
Year (approx)
10Phenotypic vs progeny
- In future seed orchards tested clones will
probably be preferrable to somewhat better - but
untested - fresh 15 year old phenotypic
selections - Progeny offers options which phenotype does not
(like observations on survival, estimates of
genetic correlations and other parameters).
11Constraints and limitations of breeding cycler
- Shit in shit out, entries must be chosen with
care. Sometimes they are not important but
sometimes they are - The input values may need some adjustment from
the most evident for considering factors not
considered in the math - Breeding heads for an area and gets information
from a limited number of sites with limited
materials, this can be considered by a reduction
of CVAm - The test environments may not be considered a
sample of future forest environments, this can
also be considered by a reduction of CVAm.
12Constraints and limitations of breeding cycler
continued 1
- If ever leading for the details for Sweden (or
elsewhere) I recommend breeding cycler to be
rerun after a more engaged debate about the
inputs. We are willing to do the reruns. - Any decision support tool may need modifications
for conciderations beyond the model. - Breeding heads for improvement in many
characters, we set the goal as one character
value for forestry and the observed character
can be seen as an index with as high correlation
as possible to the goal. - The observation is an index of observations,
and JM is thought of as time development of
observed vs goal.
13Constraints and limitations of breeding cycler
continued2
- Plant cost is seen as independent of age of
evaluation. This can cause problems for some type
of comparisons (e.g. expensive flowering
induction). This difficulty can be overcome by
inserting different costs for different compared
alternatives. - It is easy to add many types of considerations to
the EXCEL sheet, but it makes it difficult and
complex for the user and journal papers. Those
who want a special feature can often rather easy
program it into the existing breeding cycler or
even I can do it if you ask. - Phenotypic preselection reduces the genetic
variance somewhat in our pheno/progeny
calculations, quantitatively the effect is
negliable (3) in our main scenario. - The gain by within family phenotypic selection
may be slightly overexegarated with large
families. This effect is probably small and very
depending on as well the experimental lay-out as
the evaluation method.
14Constraints and limitations of breeding cycler
continued 3
- The optimal breeding strategy is too chaotic to
be found by formulas, stochastic simulation is
needed instead of breeding cycler.
15Constraints and limitations of breeding cycler
continued 4
- Breeding cycler does not specifically link to
seed orchards. To cream off seed orchards with
sufficient diversity and little inbreeding is the
most important reason for tree breeding! But this
is taken care of by the choice of the diversity
coeff (penalty).
16Constraints and limitations of breeding cycler
continued 5
- Genetic correlation are likely to change over
generations - Breeding cycler considers the first cycle, the
cumulative effect of some cycles can be assumed
to be additive, but after a number of cycles this
oversimplifications become unrealistic.
17Swedish Norway spruce breeding
ConclusionsAccumulative progress for many
generationsOrchard progress follows breeding pop
progress
18Inbreeding follows group coancestry
Simulation of Swedish Norway spruce breeding
program by POPSIM, BP48, DPM, equal
representation (2/parent)
0.08
0.06
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Probability of identity by descent
0.04
0.02
ConclusionsAccumulative change over many cycles
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4
6
8
10
Generations
Rosvall, Lindgren Mullin 1999
19Cycling will accumulate gain. Where is the limit?
20Balanced long-term breeding
- Some unbalance is favourable
- The inoptimality loss seem to be small it is
tricky to utilize unbalance, and the balance is
unlikely to affect recommendations much.
21Imbalance at initiation of breeding
- At initiation of breeding there is no balance.
- Truncating tested plus trees to long term
breeding has sometimes been done with inoptimal
imbalance. - I believe it is more optimal to sacrify the gene
diversity in the initial selections slower. - This has been discussed i förädlingsrådet 1999
(see link on seminar page), and one argument is
in Routsalainens thesis (2002).
22Sweden started imbalanced
- Swedish recently decided to decrease the breeding
population drastically ( very low Ne first
generation), - 6000 plus trees ? 1000 founders
23Flowering when?
- We assume flowering in phenotypes of conifers at
ages around 11. That may work with top-grafting.
To make progeny-testing with open pollination
possible may take 20 years. - It is important that hard data on flowering time
and flowering variations in modern progeny trials
are collected and well documented. - In our current figures we probably have
discounted early flowering assuming pollen
collection, hormone injections and top grafting
whenever possible. It is also important to
document and systematize how efficient such
actions are.
24More constraints on breeding population number
- An unpublished manus, which was produced during a
hectic month in the autumn 2003, is not much fuel - Results are contraintuitive to me, before the
study I thought the study would suggest larger
population size - Decrease of breeding population is something one
should be very conservative about - No immediate reason to go downward!
25Earlier considerations on breeding population
number
- Most considerations (including Swedish) is to
choose the lowest number, which ensures
sustainability and conservation and assurance
against loss of alleles, not optimal trade-off
with gain. - It has not been well investigated if the optimal
number could be higher than applied.
26Genetic progress as function of Ne
Expected gain after 1, 5, 10, and infinite (?)
generations of selection for different values of
Ne in a model population (Baker and Curnow 1969
from Johnson et al 2001 http//www.fs.fed.us/pnw/p
ubs/journals/Johnson_StClair_Lipow_2001.pdf). Gen
eration Ne 1 5 10 ? 4 3.3 12.4
19.5 28.4 16 3.3 16.0 31.4 114.5 32 3.3
16.8 34.6 177.5 64 3.3 17.2 36.4 220.9 256
3.3 17.5 37.8 240.0 ? 3.3 17.6 38.0 240.0
Ne gt 50 in one subpop and much larger in the
metapop, so we may not constrain future genetic
progress
27BP sizes reported in tree improvement programs
E globulus CELBI -Portugal 300
E globulus APM - Australia 300
E grandis ARACRUZ Brazil 400
E nitens APM Australia 300
E nitens New Zealand 270
E. regnans APM Australia 300
E. regnans New Zealand 300
E. Urophylla ARACRUZ Brazil 400
Picea abies Sweden gt1000
Picea glauca Nova Scotia 450
P mariana New Brunswick 400
Pinus elliottii CFGRP - USA 900
Pinus elliottii WGFTIP - USA 800
Pinus radiata STBA - Australia 300
Pinus radiata FRI New Zealand 550
Pinus taeda NCSU- USA 160
Pinus taeda WGGTIP 800
Pseudots. Menziesii BC - Canada 450
Pseudots. Menziesii NWTIC - USA 404
Tsuga heterophylla HEMTIC CAN-USA 150
Note sometimes values refer to what is available for a zone but mostly a meta-population for a larger area Note sometimes values refer to what is available for a zone but mostly a meta-population for a larger area Note sometimes values refer to what is available for a zone but mostly a meta-population for a larger area
Pinus banksiana Lake states - USA 400
Pinus banksiana Manitoba -Canada 116
Pinus caribea QFS - Australia 200-300
from Johnson et al 2001http//www.fs.fed.us/pnw/p
ubs/journals/Johnson_StClair_Lipow_2001.pdf).
28Comment The Swedish breeding population seems
unusually large (this may be justified by the
ecological amplitude covered by the Swedish
breeding program)
29The current Swedish breeding program is
sustainable for more than 10 generations.Ten
generations downstream will offer new unknown
options. There is gene banking and natural
resources besides breeders activities. The
current breeders responsibility do not stretch
longer.Question 1 Can it be made more narrow to
save money or to boost gain without loosing
sustainability?Question 2 Are there gains to be
made by enlarging BP
30How many are needed and desired?
31Summary
Census number 50 per subpopulation and 1000 in
meta-population for pine and spruce is OK to
continue in the coming decades.
32Optimal breeding population size
- What is more beneficial at a fixed budget larger
Breeding population (diversity) and smaller
testing pop (test precision) or vice versa? - Find the breeding population size which maximizes
the annual progress in group merit under the
annual budget
33How optimally allocate the resources
Test precision (testing pop.)
Diversity (breeding pop.)
34Main findings
- Spruce, BP lt 50 is beneficial, as clonal test
higher benefit from the gain-generating capacity,
- Pine, BP 50, as the gain-generating capacity of
the testing strategy is not powerful enough to
motivate reduction of gene diversity.
35Parameters and scenarios
36Testing strategy
Annual progress would benefit from lower BP for
spruce, where testing can be clonal!
37Testing strategy
- For Phenotype the optimal is above 50, but only
slightly. However, if budget is higher, it is
better to increase breeding pop size beyond 50,
than to increase offspring size. - For Progeny the low optimum may reflect high
testing cost, the total cost must be reduced by
low BP size. Note that progeny is superior to
phenotype at very high budget! - For a mixed Phenotype/Progeny philosophy,
similar low numbers as for progeny appeared.
- For Clone, low BP size probably reflects the high
gain, which makes the gene diversity loss
important
38Heritability
0.80
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0.60
Annual Group Merit,
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0.20
h2 0.1, main scenario
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Breeding Population Size
High heritability boosts gain and makes loss of
gene diversity less important. Low heritability
justifies higher BP size, but the dependence is
not strong, and I suggest we can regard the
dependence as unimportant.
39Annual Budget
100
Optimal BP Size
50
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1000
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2000
Annual Budget (main scenario 500)
Optimal BP size increases with the budget, but
only marginally and unimportant. But if spruce
has a higher budget than pine, it is also an
argument for a larger BP.
40Optimum share of resource invested in testing
increases with the budget
100
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Testing cost as of budget
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Annual budget
41Cost of gene diversity
200
150
main scenario 200
Optimal BP Size
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Diversity cost (inbreeding depression F 100)
Optimal BP is very dependent (close to linear) on
cost of gene diversity. It is critical and is
difficult to assign a value. Main scenario
approach is that the cost is double as high as if
all production were lost if no gene diversity
remains. This seems sufficiently conservative.
42Genetic variation
Optimal BP size is very dependent on genetic
variation in value for forestry. It ought to be
possible to assign better estimates as trials
grow older. The main scenario approach is that
the CV of value for forestry is 10 within
family, an educated guess based on estimates from
younger trials is 12.5 (which may be adjusted to
10 for uncertanties).
43Genetic variation
We are now exploring genetic variation in value
for forestry in old trials, if we find that to be
smaller than CV10, that may be reason to
increase breeding population size.
44Less balance in spruce!?
- Economically more important for Sweden (??BP)
- More plants produced (??BP)
- Higher investment in breeding (??BP)
- Higher site index (??)
- More flexible, present populations may later be
merged (??BP) - Can be more efficiently bred by clonal testing
(??BP) - A lower BP may be defended. Instead I suggest to
breed more aggressively, thus less balance in the
selections.
45Spruce breeding population
- We have decided that 50 is needed and should not
be keen on reducing it only a decade later. - However there is another reason to reduce spruce
BP, that is that it is more flexible, thus zones
can be larger. - I suggest to manage spruce BP more unbalanced
than pine. - And be more prepared for a reduction some decades
ahead by reducing the number of populations.
46For pine it is more important to go on with
present BP
- Lower investment in breeding (? BP)
- Less flexible, more difficult to draw on adjacent
zones (? BP) - Can not be bred by clonal testing (? BP)
- Thus for long term breeding insufficient reason
to decrease or increase BP and it may be
desirable to keep breeding rather balanced.
47End of the slidesShall we have a final
discussion?
Or someone may have tried Breeding Cycler and
experienced a problem?
48End slide beer
Or just relax?