Title: Can we trust what we read in the Bible
1Can we trust what we read in the Bible ?
- Is religion like a drug (feel good) ?
- Or is it more than good feeling ?
2Did man created God ?
- Man has a need to explain mysteries, such as
thunder (Thor god of thunder) - Man is superstitious and ascribe good and bad
fortunes to the supernatural (make a god for
every goal, e.g., Mars, god of war, Hades, god of
the underworld, etc) - Examples where man created gods
- Greek gods Zeus, Appolo, etc
- Roman gods Saturn, Mars, Venus, etc
3Did God created man (and this universe) ?
- Is evolution a proven theory ? (no !)
- What does Physics say about how the universe
began ? (it has a beginning !) - Can life come about by a pure natural process ?
- Physics, Chemistry, Biology and many other
science disciplines have recently discovered this
universe and life is only possible with a
extremely small chance (like winning the lotto
every week for 100 years straight !) - In short many scientific evidence point to the
fact that the universe and life have been
designed by some super-intellectual being...
4Which God made this universe and man ?
- Many world religions
- Judaism (Jewish Religion)
- Hinduism (Reality is just a dream of a god)
- Buddism (not really a religion but a philosophy)
- Islam (Allah is the only true god)
- Christianity (Jesus is the Son of God)
- Which one should we believe ?
- Can we know who is telling us about the true God?
- Did God reveal Himself to us in the past ?
- How can we find out which is the real God ?
- Through the study of History !
5Fantasy, Legend and History
- Fairy tales completely invented by men
- The Lord of the Rings
- Gullivers Travels Pride and Prejudice etc
- Legends historical facts with embellishments
- King Arthur (there were probably several Arthurs
that got blend into one Arthurian legend) - Trojan War (the war was real, Troy is real, but
the heroes and their characters have been
beautified) - History accounts of real events in the past
- Holocaust
- Nanjing Massacre
6How do we tell if some event is Historical ?
Writings
Pictures
Ancient artifacts
Archeological sites
7Human nature and history
- Every major historical events is told twice !
- Holocaust
- "I don't see any reason to be tasteful about
Auschwitz. It's baloney, it's a legend. Once we
admit the fact that it was a brutal slave labour
camp and large numbers of people did die, as
large numbers of innocent people died elsewhere
in the war, why believe the rest of the baloney?"
David Irving - Nanjing massacre
- a group of Japanese rightists held a conference
in Osaka on Sunday questioning the 1937 Nanjing
Massacre which they called "the biggest lie of
the 20th century." January 25, 2000, The China
Post - It is crucial to know who is telling the truth !
8How can you tell who is telling the truth ?
- Stones do not lie look at the evidence !
- ALWAYS compare the account of the historical
event with the historical evidence
The Holocaust Evidence
The Nanjing Massacre Evidence
9Honest questions about the Bible
- So, is the Bible a fairy tale ?
- Stories in the Bible are not real, but fiction
- Or is the Bible a book of legends ?
- E.g., Jesus was real, but he was just a wise man
and not the Son of God as the Bible claims - E.g., the resurrection was just a myth
- Or is the Bible a historical book ?
- Jesus was real and He was really the Son of God
- Jesus really died and resurrected (and those that
saw this freaked out completely) - (And if it is a historical book and what it said
is true, are you ready to face the consequences ?)
10Showing the New Testament is Historical
- Show that the New Testament was written about
30-60 years after Jesus death - Legendary stories are only added to oral accounts
after more than 100 years - Hostile witnesses were alive when New Testament
was written and circulated these hostile
witnesses would make sure that false information
about the Gospels will not be passed down - Show that the New Testament was passed down to us
reliably - The New Testament we have now is 99.5 identical
to the original
11Showing the Bible is Historically Reliable
- Never trust a document that says that it is true
without evidence to support it - When we study the Bible, we do NOT assume the
Bible is true instead, we first find out if the
Bible is reliable (true) - We use historical sources outside the Bible to
gain knowledge about the Bible and its accuracy
12Testimonies on the Authorship of the gospels
- Irenaeus (120-203 AD) wrote
- "Matthew published his Gospel among the
Hebrews in their own language, while Peter and
Paul were preaching and founding the church in
Rome. After their departure Mark, the disciple
and interpreter of Peter, also transmitted to us
in writing those things which Peter had preached
and Luke, the attendant of Paul, recorded in a
book the Gospel which Paul had declared.
Afterwards John, the disciple of the Lord, who
also reclined on his bosom, published his Gospel,
while staying at Ephesus in Asia."
13Testimonies on the Authorship of the gospels
- Eusebius (c. 260 - c. 340)
- "The Gospels containing the genealogies, he
says, were written first. The Gospel according to
MARK had this occasion. As Peter had preached the
Word publicly at Rome, and declared the Gospel by
the Spirit, many who were present requested that
Mark, who had followed him for a long time and
remembered his sayings, should write them out.
And having composed the Gospel he gave it to
those who had requested it. When Peter learned of
this, he neither directly forbade nor encouraged
it. But, last of all, JOHN, perceiving that the
external facts had been made plain in the Gospel,
being urged by his friends, and inspired by the
Spirit, composed a spiritual Gospel." This is the
account of Clement.
14Further evidence for the Gospels authorship
- There are no competing authors
- The lack of prominence of the first 3 authors
substantiates the fact that they were the genuine
authors - Conclusion that we can draw
- Authors of the Gospels were likely Matthew, Mark,
Luke and John (these are real people) - All of these people either knew Jesus personally
(Matthew, John) or knew someone who do
(Mark-Peter, Luke-Paul) First-hand information
!
15When was the New Testament written
Magdalen papyrus - fragment (dated around
150 A.D., but a more recent dating place it
possible around 50 A.D. !)
Bible scholars believe that the Gospel of Matthew
is written before 80 A.D. (most like around 60
A.D.)
Chester Beatty paparys P45 - fragment
(dated 200-250 A.D.)
16When was the New Testament written
Qumran cave 7 (7q5 is Mark 652-53)
(dated around 50 A.D. !)
Bible scholars believe that the Gospel of Mark
is written before 70 A.D. (most like around 50
A.D.)
Codex Vaticanus c. 350 A.D.
17When was the New Testament written
Codex Vaticanus c. 350 A.D.
Codex Sinaiticus c. 350 A.D.
Bible scholars believe that the Gospel of Luke
was written before 80 A.D. (most like around 60
A.D.)
18When was the New Testament written
Rylands papyrus dated around 125 A.D.
Bible scholars believe that the Gospel of John
was written before 90 A.D. (most like around 70
A.D.)
Brodmer papyrus dated around 200 A.D.
19Comparing Bible/Ancient History Alexander
Jesus (30AD)
Earliest surviving copies Codex Vaticanus Codex
Sinaitus
Gospels written
400
400 BC
0
800
1200
Plutarch (60 AD)
Earliest surviving copy of Plutarch
Alexander the Great (323BC)
Accounts on Jesus is much better preserved than
of Alexander
20Comparing Bible/Ancient History Caesar
Jesus (30AD)
Earliest surviving copies Codex Vaticanus Codex
Sinaitus
Gospels written
400
400 BC
0
800
1200
Suetonius (100 AD)
Earliest surviving copy of Suetonius
Julius Caesar(44 BC)
Accounts on Jesus is much better preserved than
of Caesar
21The Bible Then and Now
- OK, we have seen that the New Testament was
written within 30-60 years after Jesus death and
the information in the original was probably very
accurate - The text of the Bible that we have today may or
may not be the same as the original text
depends on how accurate the original text is
passed down - Next
- How is the Bible passed down through the ages ?
- How accurate is the Bible today compared with the
original ?
22How is the Bible passed down ?
- Printing press was invented in 1555...
- Ancient Bible was written on papyrus scrolls
- The scrolls deteriorate by use and a new copy of
the text is made when the scroll is worn
23How careful was the Bible copied ?
- The copiers of the Bible text use special care to
make sure the text was accurately copied ! - They count the number of words in each chapter
and check if the count in the copy was correct - They count the number of letters on each line and
check if the count in the copy was correct
24Evidence of careful copying of the Bible
- Before the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls, the
earliest copy of the Book of Isaiah was from
around 980 A.D. - In 1947, a Dead Sea scroll was discovered that
contained the entire book of Isaiah dated around
250 B.C. (over 1000 years earlier) - The content of the scrolls are virtually
identical except for a few copy errors
25Testimonial to Bibles Accuracy
- Norman L. Geisler William E. Nix said
- The New Testament has not only survived in more
manuscripts than any other book from antiquity
(i.e., there are many more copies of the New
Testament from ancient times in the world today),
but the New Testament has also survived in a
purer form than any other book - a form that is
99.5 pure (i.e., 99.5 of the New Testament that
we read today is exactly the same as the orignal
copy that was written almost 2000 years ago !!!)
26Counterfeits and pretenders...
- As with any historical account of any importance,
there are people that want to change the account
for their benefit - How can we identify counterfeiters ?
- The origin of these accounts are later than the
original account - Examples
- Gospel of Thomas dated around 150 A.D.
- Gospel of Peter dated around 130 A.D.
- (Compare these dates with the original gospels
70-90 A.D.)
27Sample apocryphal gospel of Thomas
- Verse 15 Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare
me to something and tell me what I am like." - Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a just
messenger. - Verse 114 Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary
leave us, for females don't deserve life." - Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make
her male, so that she too may become a living
spirit resembling you males. For every female who
makes herself male will enter the kingdom of
Heaven." - Compare with what the earlier (real) gospels say
on these topics beware of false gospels ! - More recent perversion DaVinci Code Dan Brown
28More on the reliability of the (real) gospels
- A number of characteristics of the gospels make
them more reliable - The gospels are historical narratives (reads like
a biography) people and places mentioned can be
(and have been) checked ! - They report the uglier side of the characters
even on important character like Peter (Peter
denied Jesus three times) If you want to start a
new fantasized religion, you do not make an
important figure in the religion as a wimp) - Womens testimony were worthless (not allowed) in
the ancient Jewish society and yet, the first
people that discovered the empty tomb were all
women !
29Summary
- The original gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and
John) were written within 30-60 years of Jesus
death - Original gospels were very accurate
- Short time between time when events happened and
the recording of these events - Hostile witnesses are still alive and will make
certain that any Christian fantasies are
corrected - The Bible text were copied very carefully and
passed down - The New Testament that we have now is 99.5
identical to the original