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Title: THE CHALLENGE OF RELATIONAL DEPTH IN THERAPEUTIC WORKING


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THE CHALLENGE OF RELATIONAL DEPTH IN THERAPEUTIC
WORKING
  • March 7, 2009
  • This presentation can be downloaded from
    www.davemearns.com

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  • Mearns, D. Cooper, M. (2005). Working at
    Relational Depth in Counselling and
    Psychotherapy. London Sage.
  • Mearns, D. Thorne, B. (2007). Person-Centred
    Counselling in Action. (Third Edition) London
    Sage.

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CONTENTS
  • Working at relational depth
  • Resonance
  • Difficult client process
  • Client self-dialogues
  • The clients existential process
  • The therapists developmental agenda
  • Existential touchstones
  • Exploration of our own touchstones
  • Working with Rick

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  • WORKING AT RELATIONAL DEPTH

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THE PROCESS OF RELATIONAL DEPTH
  • The counsellors humanity is focused upon the
    client
  • the client lets himself experience that humanity
  • this creates a huge therapeutic space/safety for
    the client
  • the client experiences himself more fully
  • on an on-going basis the client is more sensitive
    to himself-in-relation.

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I stopped needing to pretend
  • Box 3.6 on page 65 of Mearns, D. Thorne, B.
    (2007). Person-Centred Counselling in Action,
    Third Edition. London Sage.

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A Schema of Working at Relational Depth
B Negotiating client processes and self dialogues
C Contact with the clients existential process
A Offering relational depth
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Two Aspects of Relational Depth
  • moments of relational depth
  • relational depth experienced as a continuing
    relationship

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Presented Dimensions of Self
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Disguises, Clues, Lace Curtains and Safety
Screens
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Approach/ Avoidance towards being met at
relational depth
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How do we show our client that we are willing and
able to meet him at relational depth?
  • We go to our depth in order to meet him in his
  • We touch him tenderly in his experiencing
  • We are ready to be introduced to a deeper level
    of his experiencing.

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Relational depth is about the quality of the
relational contact, not the quantity
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Relational Depth in Everyday Life
  • Doug the teacher
  • Mhairi the nurse
  • Lillian the social worker

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CONTENTS
  • Working at relational depth
  • Resonance
  • Difficult client process
  • Client self-dialogues
  • The clients existential process
  • The therapists developmental agenda
  • Existential touchstones
  • Exploration of our own touchstones
  • Working with Rick

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RESONANCE
  • Through self-awareness in therapy the therapist
    becomes conscious of their experiencing, ie. the
    immediate present flow of experiences. What they
    experience is resonance to both the clients
    world and/or for their own world. Resonancemeans
    the echo in the therapist triggered by the
    relationship with the client (p.181).
  • Schmid, P.F. Mearns, D. J. (2006). Being-With
    and Being-Counter Person-centered psychotherapy
    as an in-depth co-creative process of
    personalization. Person-Centered and Experiential
    Psychotherapies, 5(3) 174-190.

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RESONANCE
  • SELF-RESONANCE
  • EMPATHIC RESONANCE (concordant and complementary)
  • PERSONAL RESONANCE (relational resonance)

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SELF-RESONANCE
  • Client Shall I love him or hate him? I
    dont know, I am confused.
  • Therapist thinking of his own partner Good
    question! You never know. (p. 183)

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CONCORDANT EMPATHIC RESONANCE
  • Client Shall I love him or hate him? I
    dont know, I am confused.
  • Therapist primarily sensing the clients
    confusion There are mixed feelings in you. You
    experience affection, you experience dislike and
    these are in you at one and the same time. (p.
    183)

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COMPLEMENTARY EMPATHIC RESONANCE
  • Client Shall I love him or hate him? I
    dont know, I am confused.
  • Therapist sensing primarily that the client
    gradually has been growing tired of the person he
    talks about.or even forget about him? (p. 183)

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PERSONAL (RELATIONAL) RESONANCE
  • Client Shall I love him or hate him? I
    dont know, I am confused.
  • Therapist personally touched by his clients
    bewilderment..which makes me aware how much I
    truly hope you come to the right decision this
    time. (p. 185)

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When self-resonance spills over
  • Box 6.3 on page 141 of Mearns, D. Thorne, B.
    (2007). Person-Centred Counselling in Action.
    Third edition. London Sage.

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CONTENTS
  • Working at relational depth
  • Resonance
  • Difficult client process
  • Client self-dialogues
  • The clients existential process
  • The therapists developmental agenda
  • Existential touchstones
  • Exploration of our own touchstones
  • Working with Rick

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A Schema of Working at Relational Depth
B Negotiating client processes and self dialogues
C Contact with the existential process
A Offering relational depth
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Client Processes
  • Existential Process
  • Psychotic Process (Prouty)
  • Fragile Process (Warner)
  • Dissociated Process (Warner)
  • Ego-Syntonic Process
  • Transference

RestrictingExistentialContact
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The Developmental Basis of Ego-Syntonic Process
  • The person has survived a parenting in which love
    and acceptance was not reliable. Negative
    experiences would follow when positives might be
    expected there was no way to rely on the
    relationship. Ridicule, hate or abuse would come
    when love might be expected.
  • To survive, the person needed to
  • Withdraw their emotional attachment.
  • Find ways to control the relationship
  • Find ways to control themselves in relationship.

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Sandy
  • The fellow who has a parent who is sometimes nice
    and sometimes horrible thinks that is the way the
    world is. Now, in my own case, that is how it
    was. At the time when I came to the school I
    think the difficulty was, among other things,
    that I was confronted by Patti his counsellor,
    who was an exceptionally fine human being and a
    very affectionate and decent human being. I
    wasnt able to accept the affection, which caused
    even more anger because everyone likes to accept
    affection.

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But if you condition yourself to not accepting
affection because, if by accepting it you only
let yourself in for the next downfall, you put
yourself in a position where you dont dare to
hope that the affection is for real and you keep
testing to find out if it is for real, and thats
the process where, step by step, you find out
whether it is. In a sense, maybe, that explains
my own need to hurt them, whether or not the
affection would continue to comeBettelheim, B.
(1987). The man who cared for children.
Horizon. London BBC Television.
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Ego-Syntonic Process in Adult Life
The persons self-protective systems become
generalised to other relationships (cf Sternes
RIGs Representations of Interactions that
have become Generalised). The seriousness of the
resulting pattern can vary hugely. The person may
become
  • popular but unreachable
  • alone and lonely
  • controlling
  • cold
  • cruel
  • homicidal and suicidal.

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In its mild expression their ego-syntonic process
leads the person to be confused and scared in
relationships. They know that things go wrong for
them and they come to expect things to go wrong.
But they genuinely do not understand why they go
wrong. They have done their best. They have even
tried to think about what the other person wants,
and be that (within limits). But it always goes
wrong.
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In another expression they attract relations but
fail in relationships because, ultimately, they
have to be so controlling. They need to define
the reality in the relationship and protect
against its changing. They provide well on a
material level, function well enough in more
superficial relationships, but they must not make
themselves existentially vulnerable. Usually they
are genuinely surprised when the other person
leaves them. Again, they had done their best.
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In a more serious expression, the person is
dangerous to themselves and others. They are so
threatened by relationship that their
self-protection manifests itself not in confusion
or controlling, but in detachment and even
violence. Their fear is so profound and the
degree of adjustment they have obtained so
tenuous that detachment and even destruction (of
self or other) are the only existential
protections they have left.
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The Hook in Ego-Syntonic Process
  • But there really was someone there to love I
    saw him I saw him often.
  • Its not just a rescuer thing its much
    stronger than that. I couldnt let him go
    because there were times I really saw him.
  • Its so frustrating sometimes she was a
    wonderful person she was the fullest human
    being anyone could wantbut then it would
    evaporate in tears and anger.
  • He couldnt let me in. For 20 years he couldnt
    let me in. We could even talk about how he
    couldnt let me in Maybe that was it at times
    he wasnt who he was.

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Client Processes
  • Existential Process
  • Psychotic Process (Prouty)
  • Fragile Process (Warner)
  • Dissociated Process (Warner)
  • Ego-Syntonic Process
  • Transference

RestrictingExistentialContact
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Getting beyond Transference
  • A part of me is not sure she should trust you,
    but.
  • I cant believe Ive just talked about me, like
    that, with an old man like you.

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  • Difficult process rarely defines the whole of
    the person. Often there is a dissonant part that
    houses a different conception of self. Its
    appearance can be erratic and its voice very
    small. Often its dominant feeling is sadness.

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A Schema of Working at Relational Depth
B Negotiating client processes and self dialogues
C Contact with the existential process
A Offering relational depth
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Configurations
  • Chapter 6 The nature of configurations within
    Self.Chapter 7 Person-centred therapy with
    configurations of Self.
  • In Mearns, D. Thorne, B. (2000) Person-Centred
    Therapy Today New Frontiers in Theory and
    Practice. London Sage.

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Definition
  • A configuration is a hypothetical construct
    denoting a coherent pattern of feelings, thoughts
    and preferred behavioural responses symbolised or
    pre-symbolised by the person as reflective of a
    dimension of existence within the Self.

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Definition of Configuration (Non-Jargon Version)
  • Sometimes people experience themselves as having
    different parts to their Self. Each part, or
    configuration, is well-developed, with its own
    feelings, thoughts and ways of behaving which may
    be quite different from other parts.

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Sam A 23 year old Traumatised Veteran
  • I walk around watching people and myself. I
    watch myself watching myself. I have a me that
    I use for everyday life. It does all the normal
    things that other people do - it goes to work -
    it talks with other people - it goes to the store
    - it even makes love with my wife. It carries on
    as though nothing has happened. And I watch it.
    I stand in the background and wonder how I can do
    all that stuff.

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The Herald NewspaperSaturday, June 30,
2001Goran Ivanisevic Vs Andy Roddick
  • Against Roddick on No. 1 Court yesterday, it was
    the good Goran who turned up for work to show
    the crowd the talent in his game which many
    thought he had lost for ever. In typical
    Ivanisevic style, he later claimed that during
    the game he was listening to his inner voice and
    at times the bad Goran did turn up. When that
    happened, he had to call up Goran No. 3 to sort
    things out.

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SOME CONFIGURED CLIENTS
  • Mary Most of the time I am a little princess
    all sweetness and light. Butter wouldnt melt in
    my mouth. My little princess is friends with
    everyone and in general people treat her well.
    She developed in my childhood and she is still
    around. But I also have a hard edge as hard as
    the little princess is soft. I call this part
    vixen me. I shiver when I think about her. She
    would scratch your eyes out dont mess with
    her. She too arose in my childhood, for good
    reasons.

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  • Joe I have strong me and weak me. For years
    strong me hated weak me but that has changed
    during counselling. I understand now how weak me
    came about it wasnt just that he was
    pathetic he was scared, deeply scared. Strong
    me helped me to survive but I need weak me too
    he has parts of me that strong me doesnt.

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  • Mary and Joe are familiar with their
    configurations and have even given them names
    that reflect their main themes. For other people
    there is less familiarity, less clarity, but
    still a sense of pluralism, as with Teri who, in
    surviving a hostage situation, had discovered
    another dimension of her self

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  • Teri At first I just cried. I felt that that was
    all I could do. Then something happened I
    stopped crying and became cool, clear and
    determined. I started to work out strategy. I had
    read about the fact that more hostages survived
    when they made themselves known to their
    captors. So I stopped snivelling and started to
    engage these people. I was amazed this wasnt
    me speaking, but, in fact, it was. I wasnt
    acting I was being me, but a part of me
    that I didnt recognise.

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  • Configurations are NORMAL ways to hold dissonant
    material

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TWO COMMON NARRATIVES CARRIED BY CONFIGURATIONS
  • SELF-EXPRESSION
  • SELF-PROTECTION

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Self-expressive Configurations
  • The part of me that wants more out of life.
  • The bit of me that isnt satisfied.
  • The voice within me that screams Is this all
    there is?

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Self-protective Configurations
  • The me that just wants to curl up and do
    absolutely nothing.
  • The part that wants to go back.
  • The bit that protects me by sabotaging new things.

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PRESENT TENSE DERIVATIVE
PAST TENSE DERIVATIVE
ME AS I WAS
ME AS I AM NOW
EMERGINGSYNERGY
ANOTHER ME
CONFLICT
BIFURCATION
DERI VATIVE
ME AS IVE ALWAYS KNOWN ME
THE CREEP
CONFLICT
PROTECTION
Alexander Map
FUCKEDME
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Person-Centred Therapy with Configurations of
Self(See Mearns Thorne Person-Centred Therapy
Today, Chapter 7)
  • Staying close to the clients symbolisation
  • Listen for the parts, but dont invent them
  • Avoiding zero-sum responding
  • Empathic mediation helping the parts to hear
    each other
  • Multi-directional partiality prizing all the
    parts
  • Therapists use of her configurational Self.

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  • Staying close to the
  • clients symbolisation

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  • Of course, there has always been the part of me
    which is the dutiful daughter and the other one
    which is the delinquent but there is another
    sense of me as well ..... I cant grasp it .....
    it is something to do with sadness .....

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Listen for the partsbut dont invent them
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LISTEN FOR THEM
  • Bill Finally Im going to be free of John! I
    cant wait to get him out of my life.(stops
    talking and looks down)
  • Dave Something else Bill?
  • Bill When I said that, I felt like crying.
  • Dave You felt like crying?

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  • Bill Yes - its in the background. Its behind
    everything I do.
  • Dave Its behind everything you do
  • Bill Its always there.always crying.
  • Dave Always with you and always crying.
  • Bill Yes, but only sometimes do I hear it. It
    never says anything. It only cries.

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Client there is a part of me that is
dreadfully vulnerable and sad .. she has only a
very small voice .. so I dont hear her very
often.
Therapist So I wonder what this hurt little
girl has to say to us
  • Client I dont know .. I dont know ..

Therapist From what you said before it sounds
as though she is not just a hurt little girl
but an abused little girl ..?
Client I dont know .. I dont know ..
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BUT DONT INVENT THEM
  • Client There is a part of me that is dreadfully
    vulnerable and sad .. she has only a very small
    voice .. so I dont hear her very often.
  • Therapist So I wonder what this hurt little
    girl has to say to us.
  • Client I dont know .. I dont know ..
  • Therapist From what you said before it sounds as
    though she is not just a hurt little girl but
    an abused little girl ..?
  • Client I dont know .. I dont know ..

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Avoiding Zero-Sum Responding
  • Client Part of me feels x .. and part of me
    feels not x.
  • Therapist So, you are conflicted about how you
    feel?

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Empathic Mediation Facilitating the dialogue
among parts
  • The client, Bobby, struggles with the confusion
    around two parts of his Self. One part, which he
    calls mental me, used to protect him and
    control his existence through the use of extreme
    violence towards others and towards himself. But
    there is a newly emerging part, sad me, which
    is beginning to flood into his existence

Bobby I cut myself with my knife but still the
sadness overwhelms me. Dave Cutting yourself was
your way of staying in control.
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Bobby Yes - but its not working - that mental
part of me can no longer keep it together. Hes
in deep shit - his time is past. Dave And what
does he feel ..? Bobby .. Scared .. hes so
scared. He thinks that if he loses control I
will be done for .. Hes almost
crying. Dave Thats unusual for him
.. Bobby God yes - maybe hes not so different
from the sad part of me .. the sad part can
understand crying .. God, thats the one thing
he can understand.
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Dave Can he understand your fear as
well? Bobby .. yes .. I was good at holding
things together. If I cant hold things
together, I might be .. Dave You might
be? Bobby Dead. The only way to survive in my
world was to be really mental - to kill and to
mutilate first .. But it comes from fear . fear
and sadness are not so far apart.
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Multi Directional PartialityHonouring all the
parts of the Clients Self
  • Therapist It seems to me that most of this
    session, so far, we have being hearing from that
    part of you which you called the strong part of
    me. You have also identified other parts of you
    that were quite different from the strong part
    of me - you called them lotus blossom and the
    frightened part of me. Is it meaningful to
    check-in with those parts - what do you think?
  • Monica Fuck them - they are in the past - they
    are history.

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  • Therapist Right - let me catch up - this is
    new. Is it like they are, really, history, or
    is it that you would want them to be history?
  • Monica Fuck you - you wont let them go, will
    you.
  • Therapist I am not going to let them go if they
    are parts of you - I am not going to dismiss any
    of you.
  • Monica Who pays you anyway! (with humour)
  • Therapist Good point .. Actually, I dont know
    who pays me. Who pays me?
  • Monica Clever bastard.

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Person-Centred Therapy with Configurations of
Self
  • Listen for the parts, but dont invent them
  • Avoiding zero-sum responding
  • Empathic mediation helping the parts to hear
    each other
  • Staying close to the clients symbolisation
  • Multi-directional partiality prizing all the
    parts
  • Therapists use of her configurational Self.

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CONTENTS
  • Working at relational depth
  • Resonance
  • Difficult client process
  • Client self-dialogues
  • The clients existential process
  • The therapists developmental agenda
  • Existential touchstones
  • Exploration of our own touchstones
  • Working with Rick

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WHAT IS MEANT BY THE TERM EXISTENTIAL PROCESS?
  • It is unique to every person
  • It can only be comprehended by taking a
    phenomenological perspective
  • It may contain a rich mixture of
    self-experiences, self-assumptions, hopes, fears,
    fantasies, terrors, experiences in relation to
    others, assumptions about others and deeply held
    values.

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  • It can contain powerful internal conflicts and it
    can also provide conflict for dimensions of the
    presentational self
  • Its elements and dynamics are experienced by the
    person as more fundamental to their existence
    than the aspects of their presentational self
  • Consequently, they are closely guarded. To be
    judged by another on the basis of a self we are
    presenting is one thing, but to be judged for
    what we believe is our essence is existentially
    dangerous.

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SANDRA
  • I had so much hate inside me. I could never show
    it in its raw state to anyone. It came out in
    lots of ways but I could not show it in the way
    it was to me. I could not show the bile, the
    vindictiveness, the foaming at the mouth
    invective. I could not show it the way it was to
    me I could not even show it to me the way it
    was to me. It was too destructive.

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PAUL
  • I cant describe how I am to me in ways that will
    make sense to others. It goes around my head and
    body in dream-like waves, at times coming into
    the foreground and then receding. It is all ugly.
    It is about how I am all ugly how, at my core,
    I am rotten. I can feel the maggots crawling
    around inside me, eating me up. Perhaps they will
    eat the rot and help me? How could I show this to
    anyone else/ How can I allow myself to see it?

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BERNARD
  • Sometimes the real me watches myself at work. It
    sees the smooth operator, totally confident and
    blustering others with my confidence. It is as
    though it is a magnification of the opposite of
    who I really am, Underneath, all I am is a crying
    little boy. I am curled up, rocking and sobbing.
    My face is puffed up with a lifetime of sobbing.
    My eyes are permanently closed I can barely
    endure the pain of what it is to be me I cannot
    open my eyes to see anyone else in case I see
    them seeing me.

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Working with the Client in his Existential Process
  • He gives you his self as he experiences his self.
  • What he gives is not dominated by relational
    self- protective strategies
  • He finds it impossible to lie.

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Striving to meet at Relational Depth with the
Client in her Existential Process
  • Sandie Do you really want to know me? Like, do
    you want to meet the me that I am to myself?
  • Dave Yes, I want to meet all of you.
  • (Pause)
  • Sandie I kill my babies.
  • Dave Is that meant to put me off?
  • Sandie No, its just what I do.
  • Dave (serious eye contact) You kill your
    babies .. Its a difficult thing even for me to
    say. I have to steel myself to say the words.
    They are hard words for me to say - I think
    thats why I was glib.

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  • Sandie Its what I do - the words are me - Ive
    killed three babies inside me.
  • Dave You sound .. You sound flat about it -
    on the outside at least - I dont know what you
    are inside about it ..?
  • Sandie I need to feel flat inside about it as
    well.
  • Dave Yes .. I think I can understand that .. I
    think I really can .. its the only way .. to
    ..
  • Sandie Survive.
  • Dave Yes.
  • Sandie Isnt that funny ..
  • Dave That when you feel as you do, you still
    want to survive?
  • Sandie Yes - Ive never thought about that
    before.

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Striving to meet at Relational Depth with the
Client in his Existential Process
  • Bobby Ive been feeling really bad things Dave -
    really bad things.
  • Dave Tell me Bobby.
  • Bobby I dont know if I can Dave .. I dont
    know if I can.
  • Dave This is really tough for you Bobby - I can
    see that in your face. Youve tried to make
    yourself tell me by bringing it up. But its
    still maybe not possible. I say tell me Bobby
    like I usually do .. but this is not usual
    stuff - this is .. different ..
  • (Pause)
  • Bobby Dave .. I want to kill me.
  • (Long silence)
  • Bobby All the roads lead there - I could make a
    good job of it too.

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  • Dave I bet you could, Bobby - Im scared to use
    my imagination.
  • Bobby It would be one thing I could do well.
  • Dave What are all the feelings Bobby - how do
    all the roads lead here?
  • Bobby I dont know if I want to go into it Dave
    - Ive got to this point and I feel a kind of ..
    peace.
  • Dave Christ Bobby, this is tough for me. I knew
    you were going to say that. I want to stay with
    you in that and I want to pull you away from
    that. Im no use to you unless I can stay with
    you in it.
  • Bobby Thats not true Dave - its nice for me to
    hear that. Anyway, you couldnt stop me.
  • Dave I really knew you were going to use that
    peace word. I could feel how all the roads
    lead there. I can see how that is a conclusion
    for you .. and a retribution for you ..

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  • Its the same as cutting yourself used to be for
    you, isnt it?
  • Bobby Yes, it has the same sense of punishment
    and control .. Do you understand how important
    it is for me to face this?
  • Dave Yes, I do. You must face the question that
    perhaps the only way to make retribution is to
    execute yourself.
  • (Long silence)
  • Dave You will have worked it all out?
  • Bobby In detail, Dave - in detail.
  • (Long silence)
  • Bobby Its funny to feel so alone, yet with
    someone.
  • (Long silence)

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CONTENTS
  • Working at relational depth
  • Resonance
  • Difficult client process
  • Client self-dialogues
  • The clients existential process
  • The therapists developmental agenda
  • Existential touchstones
  • Exploration of our own touchstones
  • Working with Rick

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The Developmental Agenda for the Therapist
Working at Relational Depth
  • expanding our experience of humanity
  • expanding the self available in the therapy room
  • configurations
  • existential touchstones

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Expanding Our Experience of Humanity
  • Eventually I realised that if I was going to
    work professionally as a counsellor, I had better
    find out something about the other half of
    humanity. So I started to work with men!
  • I never actively accepted myself as
    homophobic, but I was. Joining the mens group
    soon blew that away.

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  • When it would come to the edge of meeting the
    depths of my clients despair I would always pull
    back. I got over that edge, initially, through
    reading about peoples experiences of despair.
    That would take me into my tears and closer to
    my sense of my own existence.

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  • An experience which helped me to sustain myself
    in the work with Rick was attending an
    informal rap group of veterans.I used that
    group to stay connected with the kinds of
    experiencing they spoke about.
  • (Mearns Cooper, 2005 107)

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The Developmental Agenda for the Therapist
Working at Relational Depth
  • expanding our experiences of humanity
  • expanding the self available in the therapy room
  • configurations
  • existential touchstones

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  • The Therapists use of her
  • configurational self?

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Working all together with Clair
Extract 1
  • Dave 1 I really dont understand why you are
    leaving the job.
  • Clair 1 No, I knew you wouldnt.
  • Dave 2 You mean you knew that I wouldnt
    understand it?
  • Clair 2 Yes .. Ive seen it for ages. We are
    o.k. when we are working on my strong Self - that
    work has been great - I wouldnt take anything
    away from it. But my little girl isnt so sure
    about you.
  • Dave 3 She doesnt trust me.
  • Clair 3 She doesnt think you want to know her
    .. She is pretty scared you know.

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  • Dave 4 (pause) I suppose we havent spent enough
    time on her. (pause) I guess I didnt hear her
    very well - I didnt realise how bad she felt. I
    see now that I didnt hear her very well.
  • Clair 4 I didnt let her come out very often
    with you. Maybe I thought you wouldnt like me
    if I really showed you her.
  • Dave 5 And perhaps I wasnt as open to her as I
    could have been ..
  • Clair 5 Well, she has got to come out now. She
    needs to become a big girl now. So I am holding
    her hand and walking her out.
  • Dave 6 And what are you feeling, little girl?
  • Clair 6 I am scared .. and I am angry. I am
    not sure if I can trust you .. But I want to
    trust you.
  • Dave 7 I want to apologise to you for not really
    listening to you until now.

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Extract 2 (two sessions later)
  • Clair 1 It is better now, in here. It feels as
    though there are four of us working together.
  • Dave 1 You mean, two of you and two of me?
  • Clair 2 Yes.
  • Dave 2 The two parts of you, you have called
    your strong Self and your little girl. But
    you also sense two parts to me here?
  • Clair 3 Yes, dont you?
  • Dave 3 Yes, but I havent given them names yet -
    in here at least - what is your sense of them?
  • Clair 4 One is watching over everything that is
    happening. He is pretty competent, but he is
    also nervous. The other is not so used to being
    here but he has been invited. He has got a
    softness and vulnerability which is really good
    for me. He helps me to be soft with myself.
  • Dave 4 He helps you to be soft with yourself ..?

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  • Clair 5 When it was only your strong,
    competent self that was here - then my strong
    self just got together with you and there was no
    space for softies - no space for softies in
    either of us.
  • Dave 5 And it is important that we touch that
    softness in you ..?
  • Clair 6 It is important that we are all here,
    together. My parts both have strength - but they
    need to get along together, like yours do.
  • Dave 6 Maybe I am more tentative, than I look,
    my soft part kind of feels okay with this but
    is a bit unsure.
  • Clair 7 That is what soft parts are like,
    silly! Being unsure is part of being soft.
  • Dave 7 I think you are more experienced at this
    than me, Clair.
  • Clair 8 Never mind, well help each other along!

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The Developmental Agenda for the Therapist
Working at Relational Depth
  • expanding our experiences of humanity
  • expanding the self available in the therapy room
  • configurations
  • existential touchstones

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Definition of existential touchstones
  • Life events and self-experiences that have given
    us glimpses of different dimensions of ourself
    and which we can enter to put us into a feeling
    state that is closer to our clients present
    experiencing and thus act as a bridge for us
    into a fuller meeting with our client.
  • Mearns, D. Thorne, B. (2007). Person-Centred
    Counselling in Action. Third edition, p.147,
    London Sage.

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Existential Touchstones Vulnerabilities turned
into strengths
  • Five counsellors give us glimpses of earlier,
    difficult experiences that have become
    existential touchstones for them in their work
  • The memory of my own earlier aloneness is
    something I can touch to bring me closer to my
    isolated or cut off clients.

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  • It took me years to get over my own early
    experiences of humiliation but now it doesnt
    frighten me any more now I can even use it as a
    way of getting closer to my clients experience
    of humiliation or abuse.
  • I dont think you ever get over a major
    bereavement. But it gets to a point that it
    deepens you as a person and helps you to be with
    your client in their own depths.

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  • My clients anger was frightening in its power.
    At first I shrank from it but I got back close
    to it by touching how my old anger had felt. It
    was interesting to see me use that for the very
    first time.
  • Seeing myself survive some threatening situations
    has become a source of strength for me. I am
    never frightened by my client. If he offers
    threat, often as a way of pushing me away, I am
    not pushed away.

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Exercise What are, or might become, my
touchstones?
  • WHAT KIND OF SIGNIFICANT SELF EXPERIENCES HAVE I
    HAD IN MY LIFE THAT HAVE HAD CONSIDERABLE
    EXISTENTIAL SIGNIFICANCE FOR ME?
  • DO I DRAW DEPTH FROM ANY OF THESE IN MY WORK AS A
    THERAPIST?
  • ARE THERE ANY THAT I HAVE NOT USED, BUT THAT I
    COULD MAKE USE OF?
  • ARE THERE ANY THAT I AM NOT YET READY TO USE, BUT
    THAT I MAY USE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?
  • ARE THERE ANY THAT I THINK I WILL NEVER BE ABLE
    TO USE?

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CONTENTS
  • Working at relational depth
  • Resonance
  • Difficult client process
  • Client self-dialogues
  • The clients existential process
  • The therapists developmental agenda
  • Existential touchstones
  • Exploration of our own touchstones
  • Working with Rick

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Earning the Right to work with Rick A
Traumatised Client
  • Chapter 6 in Mearns Cooper (2005) Working at
    Relational Depth in Counselling and Psychotherapy.

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  • The Counterfeit Universe of war
  • (Lifton, R.J. 1974 Home from the War. London
    Wildwood House)

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  • I have taken a sane man and made him mad
    enough to go to war
  • (Captain Rivers in Regeneration).

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RICK
  • Fire fight
  • Fragging
  • Third tour
  • Mute

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The first of 72 meetings over 12 weeks
  • RICKS ROOM
  • RICKS SILENCE
  • MY WHO I AM SPEECH

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MEETING 2
  • RESPECTING AND CONNECTING

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  • ENCOUNTER NOT INVASION

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  • RICKS TURNING ROUND

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MAINTAINING OUR HUMANITY WHEN WE GET LITTLE BACK
  • What I did get back from Rick
  • Staying fresh
  • The rap group
  • Supervision.

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  • TALKING THE TALK

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MEETING 15
  • THE FLYING BOOK

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MEETING 23
  • THE DAY RICK CRIED

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MEETING 25
  • TELL HIM NOT TO COME

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MEETING 26
  • THE DAY DAVE CRIED

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MEETING 27
  • DO YOU TAKE CREAM OR SUGAR?

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  • THE END OF THE BEGINNING?
  • OR
  • THE BEGINNING OF THE END?
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