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Title: Katz und Maus


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Katz und Maus
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Questions re. Chapter 7
  • 1. What context is created for the talk at the
    school what image of the experience of war is
    created by the Kapitänleutnant, and how far
    would you say that his narrative to the
    schoolchildren shaped by his educational
    experiences?
  • 2. What does the singling-out of Buschmann
    demonstrate about the dynamics of group
    behaviour?
  • 3. What insight does this chapter give us into
    the way the narrator relates to Mahlke? (Pay
    attention to the descriptions of Mahlke which he
    gives us
  • 4. Why does Mahlke steal the medal? And why might
    we consider it a turning-point in the book?

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Questions
  • 1. What context is created for the talk at the
    school what image of the experience of war is
    created by the Kapitänleutnant, and how far
    would you say that his narrative to the
    schoolchildren shaped by his educational
    experiences?

4
The Conradinium
  • aus dem Geist unseres Gymnasiums
    hervorgegangen the humanistisches Gymnasium an
    all-round (classical) education to create
    all-round human beings
  • Captain quotes Latin while sinking ships
  • während der Blick des Führerbildes sich mit dem
    Blick des ölgemalten Freiherrn von Conradi traf
  • Who sees himself as upholding the spirit of the
    school?
  • Klohse Ordnung der Anstaltmust be maintained
    forbids non-Germanic behaviour

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  • 2. What does the singling-out of Buschmann
    demonstrate about the dynamics of group
    behaviour?

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  • 3. What insight does this chapter give us into
    the way the narrator relates to Mahlke? (Pay
    attention to the descriptions of Mahlke which he
    gives us).

7
Narrative Perspective
  • What are the limitations and possibilities of the
    narrative perspective compared to Tauben im Gras?
  • In Tauben im Gras the characters to whose
    thoughts the narrator access to seem to be
    unlimited (even dogs)
  • Katz und Maus seine Seele wurde mir nie
    vorgestellt. Nie hörte ich, was er dachte
  • Chapter 7 reflection on what people might be
    thinking.
  • The narrative at time addressed to Mahlke? What
    effect?

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  • 4. Why does Mahlke steal the medal? And why might
    we consider it a turning-point in the book?
  • Alles, vom Tauchen bis zu den späteren, mehr
    militärischen Leistungen, hat er für sie getan
    oder aber - schon muß ich mir widersprechen - um
    von seinen Adamsapfel abzulenken. Schließlich
    kann ein drittes Motif genannt werden Das
    Gymnasium. (Chapter 3)
  • What was Mahlkes stated aim in life before
    Chapter 7?

9
Group identities
  • Is Mahlkes behaviour simply to be explained by
    individual psychology could Grass have located
    his Cat and Mouse fable in any other historical
    time and place (J. Reddick)
  • Is it a story about Germany under National
    Socialism?

10
Outsiders as theme in 20c German narrative prose
  • When novels are concerned with group identities,
    they frequently explore how the demands of group
    identity restrict individual possibility. (J.
    Culler)
  • Many of the prose works on this course
    investigate marginal figures and how society
    marginalizes them
  • Or were they born to it?
  • Bigger question is the self something given or
    something made through what happens to it?

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Literature and Identity
  • Literary works offer a range of implicit models
    of how identity is formed. (J. Culler)
  • Tonio Kröger?
  • Josef K.?
  • To what extent is a subject (self / literary
    character) an agent who makes choices, rather
    than having choices imposed upon them?
  • A subject is also determined, subjected to
    various regimes (class, sexual, linguistic)
    which structure the way they think about the
    world (cf. Heinz and Ezra in Tauben im Gras)

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Is anyone responsible for what happens to Mahlke?
  • um die ewige Katze von der ewigen Maus
    abzulenken (Ch 2)
  • Whose eternal pattern?
  • Grass or Pilenz? Who is responsible for the
    structuring of the book? Wer schreibt mir einen
    guten Schluss?
  • Is it in Pilenzs interests to own up to any
    responsibility?
  • Does an eternal myth not absolve any
    participants from responsibility. Why is he so
    unwilling to name things by their name?

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To be continued next week
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